Sleaford by election

[L.A.]

Precisely - which is what all this stuff in the Supreme Court is all about - but if said article is triggered as per TM's timetable, all the motions that follow from that should be done and dusted by Spring 2019.  If Ken Clarke stands down at the next election - potentially not until May 2020, the concept of Brexiteers/Remainers will be somewhat redundant.

Brexiteers/Remainers are just labels - the same people will still be around, presumably with the same aims and opinions.

[Jack Knave]

The interesting thing about this bye-election, is, frankly, its lack of interest.

You usually assume there will be a seismic shift (as there was in Richmond) - but no such thing here. Tories down a touch, UKIP down a touch, Labour dropping a bit more (but only 7%, which in the context of bye-elections is small) with the LibDems the beneficiaries. So the Toriy majority is pretty well identical in % terms to 2015.

Perhaps the interesting point (and we saw in Richmond too) is the increase in LibDem vote - they are now the voice in England for those who don't want brexit as Labour have completely caved in. So it is unsurprising that in Richmond, a heavily remain voting area the LibDems hoovered up the votes, sufficient to win. But a lot of people were saying, 'sure, so what, wee how their anti brexit views go down in the rest of the country'. Well this constituency was one of the heaviest leave voting, yet the LibDems were the only one of the main parties to improve their position, pretty well doubling their vote share compared to 2015.

People seem to have forgotten that 48% voted against brexit, and if all but one political party caves in to the 52% then the 'last man standing' has massive opportunities to hoover up large proportions of the 48%.

Wow, the LibDems are back in the game......but only tentatively, by-elections are funny things and can't be relied on too much.

[Hope]

Only if it goes well.
If not the categories will be those that blame remainers for things going wrong although it's their own fault......and remainers.

So, Blamers and Remainers?   

[Hope]

Brexiteers/Remainers are just labels - the same people will still be around, presumably with the same aims and opinions.

But iuf we are out by 2019 - ie have exited, who or what will the Brexiteers be aiming for then?  Will they then be Back'ers and Remain'ers - where today's B's have become R's?

[L.A.]

But iuf we are out by 2019 - ie have exited, who or what will the Brexiteers be aiming for then?  Will they then be Back'ers and Remain'ers - where today's B's have become R's?

There are several unknowns - in particular:

Could there be an election before the Brexit deal is finalised?

Even if it is, there will be numerous 'loose ends' that will take decades to finalise.

Both good reasons to vote for an MP that represents your point of view on the subject.

P.S. for example, I would certainly wish for strong voices to oppose this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38037119

[Hope]

There are several unknowns - in particular:

Could there be an election before the Brexit deal is finalised?

Even if it is, there will be numerous 'loose ends' that will take decades to finalise.

Both good reasons to vote for an MP that represents your point of view on the subject.

P.S. for example, I would certainly wish for strong voices to oppose this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38037119

I suppose it would depend on what the rest of the EU leaders offered us.