For St Patrick's Day

[Nearly Sane]

To celebrate the hero of ophidiophobes, who else but the Muppets



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

[ad_orientem]

I didn't know it was St. Paddy's day. I shall have to have a pint of Guinness on the way home. My old man's mum was Irish.

[Gordon]

To celebrate the hero of ophidiophobes, who else but the Muppets



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU

Wonderful - guarantees a smile (wonder if I'd suit a green beret too).

I'm with ad - will have a Guinness this evening.

[floo]

I had forgotten it is St Pat's Day, even though I have joint British/Irish citizenship.

[Robbie]

I'd forgotten too though am part irish. Doesn't affect us much though. `people wholive in areas with high population of Irish or Irish descendants celebrate more i believe.

[floo]

I am not interested in saint's days, I suspect they weren't as saintly as thought!

[Anchorman]

Ireland - the Egyptian connection........ (What did you expect?) http://mideasti.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/if-its-saint-patricks-day-its-time-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+MeiEditorsBlog+(MEI+Editor's+Blog)&m=1

[Robbie]

I am not interested in saint's days, I suspect they weren't as saintly as thought!

St.Patrick was a Roman I believe. Not that that has anything to do with anything.

[Sebastian Toe]

I had forgotten it is St Pat's Day, even though I have joint British/Irish citizenship.

In that case you may have to give up your Irish citizenship as you have committed a cardinal sin! 

[Nearly Sane]

I am not interested in saint's days, I suspect they weren't as saintly as thought!

or even in Patrick's case as 'existy'

[Harrowby Hall]

St.Patrick was a Roman I believe. Not that that has anything to do with anything.

I suppose it depends on what you mean by Roman.

It would appear - that if he did exist - he was born somewhere in Britain (Cumbria is mentioned) which was a part of the Roman empire. All people in the Roman empire were Roman citizens. But it is unlikely that he would be "all wrapped up in tin and flannel"...

[Anchorman]

The 'Cumbria' stretched from Dumbarton to North Wales, and traces of the Brithonic place names litter South West Scotland. Patrick may have had connections with the Celto-British Ninian and his power base at Whithorn.

[Robbie]

Romano-Briton, is that correct?
I knew there were myths about Patrick but not that his existence was in doubt.

[Anchorman]

Romano-Briton, is that correct? I knew there were myths about Patrick but not that his existence was in doubt.

- He almost certainly existed -there was a sub Roman Christian culture in what is now South West Scotland a century and more before Columba and Iona reached the Gaelic speakers of the Western seaboard. the dig at Whithorn was pretty interesting. The community may have been instrumental in the conversion of many in the area - including Patrick. THe hagiography came later. http://www.gallowaygazette.co.uk/news/st-ninian-founder-of-the-christian-church-in-scotland-1-333867

[Robbie]

Thank you! I read about him long time ago, only have sketchy memories. Glad to know he existed.

[Anchorman]

Thank you! I read about him long time ago, only have sketchy memories. Glad to know he existed.

- Most people tend to forget that Columba did not 'convert' Scotland (even though there wasn't a 'Scotland' to convert at the time. Much of the kingdom of Strathclyde was altready Christian before Columba came along. Although the priestly language was probably Latin, the language of the people was Brithonic - akin to present day Welsh, rather than Gaelic.