Peak Secular

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Have we reached ''peak secular''?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs

Oh dear, but for whom?

[ippy]

Have we reached ''peak secular''?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs

Oh dear, but for whom?

I saw this on the T V this morning on Andrew Marr's program, always good to hear of so many people coming to there senses when the realisation comes over them.

It's a pity you don't seem to understand secularism Vlad,there's a lot of religious believers that are secularists too, you seem to be unable to grasp it.

ippy

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I saw this on the T V this morning on Andrew Marr's program, always good to hear of so many people coming to there senses when the realisation comes over them.

I don't see many of them coming to this message board Ippy, which leads me to believe that whereas before they were nominal Christians they are now more ''can't be arseists''.

As for coming from church going households that seems to be incorrect since I would be their parents age and I don't recall great churchgoing from them. There wasn't any nastiness from secular humanists then though but then they never had Leaders who pull them around.

[ippy]

I don't see many of them coming to this message board Ippy, which leads me to believe that whereas before they were nominal Christians they are now more ''can't be arseists''.

As for coming from church going households that seems to be incorrect since I would be their parents age and I don't recall great churchgoing from them. There wasn't any nastiness from secular humanists then though but then they never had Leaders who pull them around.

Nothing wrong with can't be arsist about superstitious beliefs Vlad.

What reason would those taking the pole have to lie about the things they have found, just stating the facts as they have found them to be is more nutral than nasty.

Have you seen that film "The Wizard of Oz" Vlad?

ippy

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Nothing wrong with can't be arsist about superstitious beliefs Vlad.

What reason would those taking the pole have to lie about the things they have found, just stating the facts as they have found them to be is more nutral than nasty.

Have you seen that film "The Wizard of Oz" Vlad?

ippy

There were 2 things in the article that caught my eye. Christianity on the rise in areas of population growth, and the levelling off of the decline in numbers in countries like this. The secular wet dream of a decline to zero numbers is not supported by the stats.

Also I kind of feel The need to inform you that, from my point of view, the person who waves my failure to convert them is in some sense the equivalent to a noseless person jibing me for not preventing him spiting his own face.

[jeremyp]

Have we reached ''peak secular''?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs

Oh dear, but for whom?

Peak secular would be 100% of the population.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Peak secular would be 100% of the population.

I don't think so. I think peak anything is er, what it peaks at and we may be almost there since what it calls the rate of nonversions is slowing.

[Rhiannon]

I'm not a statistician but presumably this survey can't include children? The retention rate for Anglicanism isn't great. How can they declare this to be a 'peak' when there are still young people who will one day make their own minds up?

Also as an aside I think that Muslims and possibly Hindus would outnumber Catholics were it not for the influx of Eastern Europeans, notably Poles. Brexit could change this.

[ippy]

There were 2 things in the article that caught my eye. Christianity on the rise in areas of population growth, and the levelling off of the decline in numbers in countries like this. The secular wet dream of a decline to zero numbers is not supported by the stats.

Also I kind of feel The need to inform you that, from my point of view, the person who waves my failure to convert them is in some sense the equivalent to a noseless person jibing me for not preventing him spiting his own face.

? I keep forgetting English isn't your first language Vlad.

ippy