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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2017, 11:29:05 PM »
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2017, 09:11:25 AM »
It appears the 'offense' is that not using the word 'easter' has left the national trust with egg all over it's face. LOL

It is quite a bad Jyoke when you think about it.  So nothing that will crack us up laughing and nothing but
a chocolate farce.

Cadbury was a religious man and eggs are about easter except for Sunday breakfast. Someone seems to be poaching Eggs away from Easter.  Or is it Easter being left with an egg?

We celebrate Easter and the Egg is new life... Why don't they be a good egg and leave Easter as it is?
A Christian tradition which does not require changing for the egg sinkers of the world.

What do you get if you poor boiling water down a rabbit hole? 

Hot cross bunnies..


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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #53 on: April 16, 2017, 08:15:27 PM »
It appears the 'offense' is that not using the word 'easter' has left the national trust with egg all over it's face. LOL

It is quite a bad Jyoke when you think about it.  So nothing that will crack us up laughing and nothing but
a chocolate farce.

Cadbury was a religious man and eggs are about easter except for Sunday breakfast. Someone seems to be poaching Eggs away from Easter.  Or is it Easter being left with an egg?

We celebrate Easter and the Egg is new life... Why don't they be a good egg and leave Easter as it is?
A Christian tradition which does not require changing for the egg sinkers of the world.

What do you get if you poor boiling water down a rabbit hole? 

Hot cross bunnies..
or why not let people and companies choose to use the word or not and don't make a fuss when they don't.
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2017, 09:26:05 AM »
Dear Splash,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35672775

I think I would rather choose to make a fuss.

Nevermind! The Tooth Fairy must be a very happy bunny >:(

Being a Pratchett fan I have always imagined the Tooth Fairy as a very fat fairy who delights in kids tooth decay and obesity :(

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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #55 on: April 17, 2017, 11:06:57 AM »
or why not let people and companies choose to use the word or not and don't make a fuss when they don't.

If you are using a religious theme 'Easter' to sell a produce then you cannot pretend that it isn't about celebrating the
festival for which they are producing the egg.
If they produced the product all year round then they could use and choose the words.
But as they only make the easter eggs for the easter festival then they have to use the 'Easter' word.

To be honest any good business man would tell you. If you stop using the word Easter then eventually no one would associate your product with the celebration and there would be no reason to buy them. A box of chocolates would
suffice better than an egg. To be honest the companies rely on these celebrations such as easter to boost their sales.
So they cannot have it both ways.  If they stop using the Christmas and Easter festival no one will feel obliged to buy an egg or selection packs during these celebrations.

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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #56 on: April 17, 2017, 11:20:41 AM »
Dear Sass,

Right with you ;) Lets keep Christmas and Easter for what it is supposed to be, but then we are up against the giants of commercialism, and the world seems gladly to follow in their nonsense. :(

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PS: The Pagans will be along in a Mo to tell us all what Christmas and Easter is all about. ::)
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #57 on: April 17, 2017, 11:33:20 AM »
Dear Sass,

Right with you ;) Lets keep Christmas and Easter for what it is supposed to be, but then we are up against the giants of commercialism, and the world seems gladly to follow in their nonsense. :(

Gonnagle.

PS: The Pagans will be along in a Mo to tell us all what Christmas and Easter is all about. ::)

Which came first the 'Chicken' or the 'Egg'?  Do we celebrate Jesus or Ēostre or Ostara?
We nailed our true colour's to mast a long, long time ago.  Who came first God or man?
God came first then man, then Ēostre or Ostara. If these pagan gods want to claim Easter then let them reveal themselves and claim it. Whoops! they can't because no one worships them because man made them up. Guess we have to go along with Jesus Christ. Seems he actually did something like rise from the dead. Also not forgetting the Jews who have always used eggs in their passover as the sign of new life.  Hey wait a minute... isn't that the very reason we celebrate Easter.
New Life and Christ rising from the dead emerging alive from his grave/tomb.

If they want Easter let their gods come and claim it.. Our God did. ;) 8) ::) ;D
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« Reply #58 on: April 17, 2017, 11:45:45 AM »
Dear Sass,

Right with you ;) Lets keep Christmas and Easter for what it is supposed to be, but then we are up against the giants of commercialism, and the world seems gladly to follow in their nonsense. :(

Gonnagle.

PS: The Pagans will be along in a Mo to tell us all what Christmas and Easter is all about. ::)

Will we? I've been posting on this thread quite a bit and I'm not aware that I've told you anything.

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« Reply #59 on: April 17, 2017, 03:04:40 PM »
God came first then man, then Ēostre or Ostara. If these pagan gods want to claim Easter then let them reveal themselves and claim it.
Unsubstantiated assertions. What we do know is that people were worshiping pagan gods and the seasons well before Christians appeared.

Whoops! they can't because no one worships them ...
People did (and some people still do) worship them. 

... because man made them up.
Another assertion and one that is just as easily levelled at the Christian god as pagan gods because there is no evidence to prove the existence of either. However at least the pagan gods that are associated with the seasons are embedded in truths we do have evidence for, in other words the annual passage of the seasons.

If they want Easter let their gods come and claim it.. Our God did. ;) 8) ::) ;D
I think many people do in a way. While I fully accept that very few people actually worship Eostre, I think that millions celebrate the return of spring and see Easter as inextricably linked with this. Indeed you only have to look at the heaving garden centres, the hum of lawn-mowers making their first outings of the year, the enjoyment of the blossom etc etc to recognise just how powerful marking the seasons is - certainly much more long-lasting and universally understandable than the convoluted and unevidenced assertions of a man dying and coming back to life.

Try as you might Christians have filed to stamp out the earlier understanding of the seasonal significance of both Easter and Christmas - and actually their significance in the season context grows as their Christian religious significance dwindles.

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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2017, 03:11:41 PM »
If these pagan gods want to claim Easter then let them reveal themselves and claim it.
If your god wants to claim Easter, let him reveal himself and claim it.

Whoops! he can't because man made him up.

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Seems he actually did something like rise from the dead.
According to some old story written decades after he didn't rise from the dead.

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If they want Easter let their gods come and claim it.. Our God did.
No he didn't.
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #61 on: April 19, 2017, 08:51:44 PM »
Dear Splash,

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-35672775

I think I would rather choose to make a fuss.

Nevermind! The Tooth Fairy must be a very happy bunny >:(

Being a Pratchett fan I have always imagined the Tooth Fairy as a very fat fairy who delights in kids tooth decay and obesity :(

Gonnagle.
So does calling them easter eggs prevent tooth decay ?
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #62 on: April 19, 2017, 08:54:28 PM »
If you are using a religious theme 'Easter' to sell a produce then you cannot pretend that it isn't about celebrating the
festival for which they are producing the egg.
If they produced the product all year round then they could use and choose the words.
But as they only make the easter eggs for the easter festival then they have to use the 'Easter' word.

To be honest any good business man would tell you. If you stop using the word Easter then eventually no one would associate your product with the celebration and there would be no reason to buy them. A box of chocolates would
suffice better than an egg. To be honest the companies rely on these celebrations such as easter to boost their sales.
So they cannot have it both ways.  If they stop using the Christmas and Easter festival no one will feel obliged to buy an egg or selection packs during these celebrations.
They are making choc eggs. They don't have to use the word easter. Stop trying to force your world view on the rest of us.
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2017, 02:15:12 AM »
Unsubstantiated assertions. What we do know is that people were worshiping pagan gods and the seasons well before Christians appeared.
 
Wrong, the pagan hijacked the Easter/Jewish celebration much later wanted to associate them to the real God.
Didn't work then and certainly won't work now.

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People did (and some people still do) worship them.
If they worshipped them where are their temples... They don't have any unless of course you are admitting it is all pagan beliefs and no
temples exist just your beliefs you took from books written about what they supposedly represented.
The bible shows those practices under Baal which were many gods all pagan and included the worship of the male elements of nature including animals. We all know animals just animals and creation not gods.


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Another assertion and one that is just as easily levelled at the Christian god as pagan gods because there is no evidence to prove the existence of either. However at least the pagan gods that are associated with the seasons are embedded in truths we do have evidence for, in other words the annual passage of the seasons.

In your dreams the God of the Jew and Christian has been active since time and memorial. You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia. God still healing and present with his people. The truth is pagans know their beliefs unfounded in any real power source.
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I think many people do in a way. While I fully accept that very few people actually worship Eostre, I think that millions celebrate the return of spring and see Easter as inextricably linked with this. Indeed you only have to look at the heaving garden centres, the hum of lawn-mowers making their first outings of the year, the enjoyment of the blossom etc etc to recognise just how powerful marking the seasons is - certainly much more long-lasting and universally understandable than the convoluted and unevidenced assertions of a man dying and coming back to life.

Now you are being ridiculous. I cannot believe you are writing these things. I am more convinced now than ever, that people are pagan because they are desperate for  any belief which they know will never require proof because everyone knows it does not exist in the first instance so will never ask.
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Try as you might Christians have filed to stamp out the earlier understanding of the seasonal significance of both Easter and Christmas - and actually their significance in the season context grows as their Christian religious significance dwindles.

Pagans have to hijack beliefs from the true religion because they have nothing of their own that actually gives any real comfort.
No one challenges your beliefs because no one accepts they have any substance to them.
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2017, 02:22:24 AM »
If your god wants to claim Easter, let him reveal himself and claim it.

He did, Adam to Christ, shows God been here since the beginning. He created the egg making the chicken first. He created the men who believe in false gods and worship flowers, trees and animals.  Then Jesus Christ came and rose from the dead.
If you had evidence you would not feel the need to push the things even you know are false on others.

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Whoops! he can't because man made him up.

If you put Christ up against paganism or even YHWH then the people of YHWH certainly had to be more intelligent than those created paganism.
You do realise that if everything was made up then paganism a very poor second to YHWH and the Messiah.
Better worshipping a creator of all who is all-powerful than just the created.


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According to some old story written decades after he didn't rise from the dead.
No he didn't.

Makes more interesting reading than pagan gods doesn't he. Seems there is high intelligence in what we choose to believe and paganism requiring less intelligence.
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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2017, 02:23:42 AM »
They are making choc eggs. They don't have to use the word easter. Stop trying to force your world view on the rest of us.

Force it... you believe in worshipping the male forces of nature?
Who requires force? ;D  ROFL
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2017, 08:34:47 AM »
Wrong, the pagan hijacked the Easter/Jewish celebration much later wanted to associate them to the real God.
Didn't work then and certainly won't work now.
If they worshipped them where are their temples... They don't have any unless of course you are admitting it is all pagan beliefs and no
temples exist just your beliefs you took from books written about what they supposedly represented.
The bible shows those practices under Baal which were many gods all pagan and included the worship of the male elements of nature including animals. We all know animals just animals and creation not gods.


In your dreams the God of the Jew and Christian has been active since time and memorial. You are so far back in the closet of denial you are in Narnia. God still healing and present with his people. The truth is pagans know their beliefs unfounded in any real power source.
Now you are being ridiculous. I cannot believe you are writing these things. I am more convinced now than ever, that people are pagan because they are desperate for  any belief which they know will never require proof because everyone knows it does not exist in the first instance so will never ask.
Pagans have to hijack beliefs from the true religion because they have nothing of their own that actually gives any real comfort.
No one challenges your beliefs because no one accepts they have any substance to them.

The god of the Jews and Christians has only been active in the mind of believers for a long while, there is no evidence to support the idea it being a real entity.

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Re: And so the Sacrament of the Chocolate Egg is Desecrated
« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2017, 03:57:56 PM »
Force it... you believe in worshipping the male forces of nature?
Who requires force? ;D  ROFL
What ?
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