Parsons Green incident

[Robbie]

it's times like this I wish my daughter didn't live and work in London . I have to weigh up the fact that a young girl from the Yorkshire Dales is living her dream against the risks. She sent a text to say she was okay which helps !

London is huge, Walter. Terrorist attacks have happened but the chances of most of us being in one are minimal.  Does she live or work near Parsons Green?   

Other parts of the country have been affected.  We can either go around worrying that no-one is safe and staying indoors - or get on with life.

However I sympathise with how you feel.  Both my daughters work in London, one central but commutes from Blackheath, the other lives and works in West London as does my niece;  my sister works at Waterloo, one of her sons is a student in central London;  my husband's firm is in central London.  I don't think any of them believe they are in danger.

[Walter]

They can't give more detail in case it screws up the investigation. The terror threat wasn't raised to 'imminent' because of a bunch of neo nazi losers, but because there could be people linked to this dipstick ready to attack at any time. Trump might not know that but users of this forum should.

Yes Miss 

[JP]

Reports suggest he is a refugee held by police two weeks ago but released.

[trippymonkey]

Latest News.
They have a guy....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41298116

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/16/dover-arrest-parson-green-tube-bomb

[jeremyp]

well thanks for that , you cunt!

What was that for?

[Nearly Sane]

What was that for?

I took it as ironic for you highlighting the danger his daughter is in generally.

[jeremyp]

What civil liberties have been eroded?

Our rights to go about our lawful daily business without government poking its nose in or interfering. Our right to a fair trial before being incarcerated for any significant time. Our right to use secure end to end encryption in our online transactions. Our right to get on an aeroplane without a virtual strip-search.

Also why call it an 'incident'.

Because it is an incident.

Why not an attempted terrorist attack or bombing. Why call it an 'IED' instead of a bomb (and yes I know it is improvised but it is still a bomb).

Because it was an IED. Fortunately, it turned out not to be a bomb although that was unintentional on the part of the attempted murderer.

Why not release a picture of the person they are seeking so the wider public can assist. Who is the 18 year old has been arrested, not a name perhaps but a bit more detail like when they arrested the serving members of the Army a few weeks back they were arresting " extremist far right Nazis" but this one is only an 18 year old.

Downplaying.

You'll have to ask the police that.

[jeremyp]

I took it as ironic for you highlighting the danger his daughter is in generally.

I thought I was saying his daughter was in no real danger.

Oh well.

[Nearly Sane]

I thought I was saying his daughter was in no real danger.

Oh well.

I take it you don't have a daughter?

[Walter]

London is huge, Walter. Terrorist attacks have happened but the chances of most of us being in one are minimal.  Does she live or work near Parsons Green?   

Other parts of the country have been affected.  We can either go around worrying that no-one is safe and staying indoors - or get on with life.

However I sympathise with how you feel.  Both my daughters work in London, one central but commutes from Blackheath, the other lives and works in West London as does my niece;  my sister works at Waterloo, one of her sons is a student in central London;  my husband's firm is in central London.  I don't think any of them believe they are in danger.

I know you mean well but.................... if it works for you!

if anyone hurt my daughter I would find and kill them.

[Rhiannon]

I thought I was saying his daughter was in no real danger.

Oh well.

No, what you did was point out that she faces a greater threat than terrorism.

The difference is only that most of don't change our behaviour hugely as a result of hearing about an RTA, even though there are more of them then terror attacks. Our perception of risk is different. It doesn't make anyone in less danger.

[Walter]

No, what you did was point out that she faces a greater threat than terrorism.

The difference is only that most of don't change our behaviour hugely as a result of hearing about an RTA, even though there are more of them then terror attacks. Our perception of risk is different. It doesn't make anyone in less danger.

terrorism is an extra threat to add to all the others . one that as individuals ,we have no control over , the others we do.
That's the difference. That's why it holds more fear.

[Walter]

And in the case of my family the daughter I refer to has ,only 7 years ago, experienced an horrific incident that almost took her life when she was only 14 years old.

[Rhiannon]

terrorism is an extra threat to add to all the others . one that as individuals ,we have no control over , the others we do.
That's the difference. That's why it holds more fear.

We have little or no control over most things that are a threat. Control and safety are often illusory.

I think what shocks with terrorism is that it is intentional and comes from a place of hate.

[Rhiannon]

And in the case of my family the daughter I refer to has ,only 7 years ago, experienced an horrific incident that almost took her life when she was only 14 years old.

I'm sorry to hear this. I nearly lost my daughter at birth and later her sister had some serious health scares. It's hard not to want to put them in a box and keep them safe.

[Walter]

I'm sorry to hear this. I nearly lost my daughter at birth and later her sister had some serious health scares. It's hard not to want to put them in a box and keep them safe.

letting them go and make their own way in the world is often quite difficult . Hiding that from them and showing encouragement is a dilemma I'm sure most parents experience but we must do it .
Acts of terrorism is one risk variable too many though.

[Walter]

I'm sorry to hear this. I nearly lost my daughter at birth and later her sister had some serious health scares. It's hard not to want to put them in a box and keep them safe.

you have my sympathy Rhi.