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Humph Warden Bennett

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Nicholas II
« on: November 03, 2017, 09:03:57 PM »
An interesting if poorly written & not entirely accurate article. I have no axe to grind since I am not a member of the Russian Orthodox Church, FWIW I do feel that if the Royal Family are declared as martyrs, so should be their servants who died with them.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/october-revolution-russia-100-years-tsar-nicholas-ii-royalist-cult-romanov-family-murder-bolsheviks-a8035466.html
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 10:24:04 PM »
Frankly, the Tsar got what was coming to him. He lived in gross, vulgar luxury while the workers starved, and resisted moves towards greater democracy.
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2017, 06:45:00 AM »
Quote from: Havelock Vetinari on November 03, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
Frankly, the Tsar got what was coming to him. He lived in gross, vulgar luxury while the workers starved, and resisted moves towards greater democracy.

I presume you mean his dad, Alexander III? Under Nicholas II (well Stolypin was more to do with it than him) the first Duma was established.
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2017, 08:34:45 AM »
Quote from: Havelock Vetinari on November 03, 2017, 10:24:04 PM
Frankly, the Tsar got what was coming to him. He lived in gross, vulgar luxury while the workers starved, and resisted moves towards greater democracy.

What followed on was even worse!
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2017, 09:04:08 AM »
The Romanovs might well have survived - the nascant regime offered to cart them off into exile to dear old Blighty....but good old old cousin Georgie, once Nicolas's close friend, fearing revolution, got Windsor cold feet and let them remain to be murdred.
Relatives,eh?
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2017, 10:08:06 AM »
Quote from: Humph Warden Bennett on November 04, 2017, 06:45:00 AM
I presume you mean his dad, Alexander III? Under Nicholas II (well Stolypin was more to do with it than him) the first Duma was established.
Not with Nicholas's co-operation, I don't think, but in defiance of him.
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2017, 11:45:48 AM »
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Quote from: Havelock Vetinari on November 04, 2017, 10:08:06 AM
Not with Nicholas's co-operation, I don't think, but in defiance of him.

From all accounts, Nicholas II was a weak man incapable of bullying.
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Re: Nicholas II
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2017, 01:46:43 PM »
Quote from: Floo on November 04, 2017, 08:34:45 AM
What followed on was even worse!
Yes, it was - the workers were cruelly betrayed. That doesn't excuse Nick, though.
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