Author Topic: Smart Motorways  (Read 1150 times)

Walt Zingmatilder

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33801
Smart Motorways
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:11:18 AM »
Smart motorways or A roads manqué?
Technowonk on BBC breakfast peddling line Smart Motorways have more technology on them so they must be good.
Technically all such roads should be redesignated as A roads as the number of motorways is effectively being cut.
Lives at stake here.

floo

  • Guest
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 08:16:38 AM »
Smart until it all goes wrong! :o

Harrowby Hall

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5055
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 08:43:32 AM »
The M5 between Bromsgrove and Worcester, I think, is a case worth considering. The hard shoulder has been transformed into a fourth lane. There are stopping points at 1km intervals.

My opinion is that hard shoulders have been a defining point of motorways and a significant contribution to safety. Sooner or later there is going to be a major incident due to the absence of a specific emergency stopping lane. When it happens, watch the hand wringing ...
Does Magna Carta mean nothing to you? Did she die in vain?

Walt Zingmatilder

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33801
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 09:33:59 AM »
The smart motorways are a social Darwinian metaphor for Conservative Britain.

Aruntraveller

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11627
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2018, 09:46:37 AM »
The smart motorways are a social Darwinian metaphor for Conservative Britain.

It really isn't.

However, I do think we should be concentrating more on making drivers smarter - see the Daily Mirror headline this morning.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/driver-caught-doing-60mph-both-11896876
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. - God is Love.

Walt Zingmatilder

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33801
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2018, 10:10:51 AM »
Think of it though. The government are definition riddling here. Roads without hard shoulders were A roads I can think of a long stretch of Motorway at Swansea where the inside lane was designated as the A road.
Of course properly designating roads as A roads would mean that the government has cut back on motorways. So for political expedience for the car loving electorate they are now Smart motorways.

Aruntraveller

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 11627
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2018, 11:07:49 AM »
No disagreement there - just not seeing it as a metaphor in the way you described it. 

Are you trying to draw an equivalence between political expediency and social Darwinism?

If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. - God is Love.

Walt Zingmatilder

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33801
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2018, 11:14:07 AM »
No disagreement there - just not seeing it as a metaphor in the way you described it. 

Are you trying to draw an equivalence between political expediency and social Darwinism?
Not really but it's come to something when calling an A road an A road is political suicide whereas turning a road into some kind of death race is not.

jeremyp

  • Admin Support
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 33307
  • Blurb
    • Sincere Flattery: A blog about computing
Re: Smart Motorways
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2018, 06:09:27 PM »
The defining feature of a motorway is not the hard shoulder. There are A roads with hard shoulders and now motorways without some of the time (bad move IMO).

Amongst other defining features are

- the restrictions on the types of vehicles allowed
- the fact that you have to hold a full driving licence to use them
- only access is by slip road
- no stopping
- no pedestrians or animals (e.g. horses)

Also motorway construction has different standards. For example there is a lower maximum gradient and a larger minimum radius for a curve.
This post and all of JeremyP's posts words certified 100% divinely inspired* -- signed God.
*Platinum infallibility package, terms and conditions may apply