The naked nymph conversation

[Rhiannon]

The removal of the painting has been filmed for an art installation:

http://manchesterartgallery.org/exhibitions-and-events/exhibition/sonia-boyce/

[Nearly Sane]

The removal of the painting has been filmed for an art installation:

http://manchesterartgallery.org/exhibitions-and-events/exhibition/sonia-boyce/

Maybe it's just being early in the morning but I can't see in the link any specific  reference in the link?

[Rhiannon]

Maybe it's just being early in the morning but I can't see in the link any specific  reference in the link?

Sorry, I got there via here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42904024

[Nearly Sane]

Sorry, I got there via here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42904024

Ah! Thanks.

[Gordon]

They're putting it back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-42917974

[Rhiannon]

I did wonder if that’d be the outcome. Looks like an intervention by the council.

[Harrowby Hall]

See my new contribution to the Remove this painting  thread.

[jeremyp]

How do you determine what is a 'fine piece of work' other than that you like it?

I find that "I like it" is a very bad way of deciding if a piece of art is great or not - at least if the general consensus is right.

I find lots of art offensive but I assume that is my problem - or the artist has deliberately set out to offend, in which  case I congratulate them on their success.

[Nearly Sane]

See my new contribution to the Remove this painting  thread.

Yes, not seeing how that relates to this.

[Nearly Sane]

I find that "I like it" is a very bad way of deciding if a piece of art is great or not - at least if the general consensus is right.

I find lots of art offensive but I assume that is my problem - or the artist has deliberately set out to offend, in which  case I congratulate them on their success.

His do you determine if the general consensus is right? Surely it's just a collection of subjectivity?


And yes, 'liking it' is probably too narrow a term but the point remains there is no other way of deciding whether you think something is fine/great without you stating that as an opinion.

[jeremyp]

His do you determine if the general consensus is right? Surely it's just a collection of subjectivity?

Well appreciation of art is subjective. If I like a piece and the general consensus is that it is rubbish (or vice versa), who am I to argue?

[Nearly Sane]

Well appreciation of art is subjective. If I like a piece and the general consensus is that it is rubbish (or vice versa), who am I to argue?

Because all those opinions added up are worth precisely the sane as your's. If you loved marmite, and the consensus was that it was evil, what dies it matter to your love of it?

[jeremyp]

Because all those opinions added up are worth precisely the sane as your's.

Well to me they are. In fact to me they are worth precisely nothing. However, society does seem to have come to a consensus about whether a number of works of art are great or not. How do we do that if one person's opinion is woth the same as a lot of people's?

[Nearly Sane]

Well to me they are. In fact to me they are worth precisely nothing. However, society does seem to have come to a consensus about whether a number of works of art are great or not. How do we do that if one person's opinion is woth the same as a lot of people's?

Because we think that many people going oooh how amazing tells us more than one person. That the general consensus about what we think the import of general consensus on subjective opinions is wrong doesn't give it any validity other than people being wrong.