Arming the Ukrainians

[Spud]

So effectively UK follows Biden?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c20726y20kvt ;So

Britain apparently needs US permission to use them because they have US-made components.

Is there any evidence of North Koreans in Kursk?

[Maeght]

Britain apparently needs US permission to use them because they have US-made components.

Isn't it because they need the US satellites for targeting?

[ad_orientem]

Isn't it because they need the US satellites for targeting?

Only partially. Storm Shadow has a semi-autonomus guidance system.

[Maeght]

Only partially. Storm Shadow has a semi-autonomus guidance system.

Yes, but for finding suitable targets don't they need US satellites?

[Nearly Sane]

'Ukraine says Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile for first time in the war' - though this seems not necessarily to have been an ICBM.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/ukraine-says-russia-launched-ballistic-missile-for-first-time/104632948

[Nearly Sane]

'Ukraine says Russia launched an intercontinental ballistic missile for first time in the war' - though this seems not necessarily to have been an ICBM.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-21/ukraine-says-russia-launched-ballistic-missile-for-first-time/104632948

Apparently a new missile


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4n9vgwnnyo

[ad_orientem]

Apparently a new missile


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4n9vgwnnyo

Release the Tomahawks! They have a destiny to be fulfilled in Moscow.

[Spud]

Release the Tomahawks! They have a destiny to be fulfilled in Moscow.

I would imagine that the moment tomahawk missiles were detected, Russian submarines would launch their equivalent in response. Surely after yesterday you don't still believe they are bluffing?

[ad_orientem]

I would imagine that the moment tomahawk missiles were detected, Russian submarines would launch their equivalent in response. Surely after yesterday you don't still believe they are bluffing?

Er, yes I do. But even if they weren't, it'd still be worth it. And for all the "escalation" whiners, build a fucking bunker if you're so worried.

[Spud]

So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?

[ad_orientem]

So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?

Oh yeah, because russia is the only country with nuclear weapons. In fact, russian weapons are so good and fast that they arrive at their destination before they press the launch button. The west can only retaliate by throwing stones at them. Well, that's what you lot would have us believe, anyway.

[Maeght]

So Russia has weapons that can take out any target in Europe without being intercepted. Question: if they target the UK's store of nuclear warheads with conventional hypersonic missiles like the Hazel, would those nuclear warheads detonate?

The detonation process for nuclear weapons is very specific and so highly unlikely they would actually detonate.

[Spud]

Oh yeah, because russia is the only country with nuclear weapons. In fact, russian weapons are so good and fast that they arrive at their destination before they press the launch button. The west can only retaliate by throwing stones at them. Well, that's what you lot would have us believe, anyway.

Un-interceptable missiles are Russia's answer to the US pulling out of the ABM treaty, iirc. They allow Russia to be able to strike back in the event that they are attacked. This ensures mutually assured destruction.

In the event that Trump pulls US support from Ukraine, and Europe went to war with Russia without the US, the first thing Russia would do is destroy our nuclear deterrent. That would probably cause Europe to think again.

[Spud]

The detonation process for nuclear weapons is very specific and so highly unlikely they would actually detonate.

Thanks, I hope you're right.

[jeremyp]

Un-interceptable missiles are Russia's answer to the US pulling out of the ABM treaty, iirc. They allow Russia to be able to strike back in the event that they are attacked. This ensures mutually assured destruction.

In the event that Trump pulls US support from Ukraine, and Europe went to war with Russia without the US, the first thing Russia would do is destroy our nuclear deterrent. That would probably cause Europe to think again.

The British nuclear deterrent is in submarines under the sea.

[Spud]

The British nuclear deterrent is in submarines under the sea.

Most of it is in bunkers in Scotland, but yes, some is in submarines.

[Nearly Sane]

Most of it is in bunkers in Scotland, but yes, some is in submarines.

No, it's all in the submarines, which do dock in Scotland but not in bunkers.