Trident

[jeremyp]

Then why aren't all the many countries that don't have nuclear weapons being held hostage?

Because the global community won't let them do it. And the global community has a lot of nuclear weapons. If nobody had nuclear weapons except North Korea (for example) then there wouldn't be North Korea, but united Korea with a couple of smouldering slag heaps where some of the medium sized South Korean cities used to be.

I fully admit this is not an argument that the UK specifically needs nuclear weapons, but somebody on the side of freedom and democracy does.

[Robbie]

Great.
You can park them next to your town, then.
And, while you're at it, can you take the Polaris subs now rotting near Edinburgh? They have still not been decomissioned and their reactors removed.

The 'Monster in the Loch'
(fellow CND member here).

[Spud]

They may also be the only available way to prevent the use of chemical weapons by rogue states?

[Anchorman]

The 'Monster in the Loch'
(fellow CND member here).

   



I think the chap who inspired me as a young Christian, to demonstrate, was Ian Tweedlie, then a local minister and a member of the Iona Community.
He was banged up for 28 days in the nick - Gordon and NS will recognise the term 'Bar-l' - for protesting at the Holy Loch - there was a misnomer if ever there was one.
I was chained to a few others in a demo three years later. We were quite miffed when qwe were only cautioned...three folk in the line next to us were nicked and jailed.

[Anchorman]

They may also be the only available way to prevent the use of chemical weapons by rogue states?

   

Evidence?

By the way, it didn't perevent Russia this year, did it?
As Salisbury.

[Anchorman]

 You know you're getting old when....
.....something you remember ends up in a blasted museum.
I remember having a cuppa at the Faslane Peace Caravan...a rather decrepit, manky wee thing, but it had a stove, tea and cups - even if there was more bacteria in the cups than in the muck in which the caravan stood.
Now the blasted thing is a museum exhibit in Glasgow's Riverside Museum.

http://www.rampantscotland.com/riverside/page/image43.html

It stands as a testimony to the many, from all walks of life, who kept up a vigil against Polaris and Trident.
Don't worry - it's been replaced by a modern version with better stoves, less bacteria and an internet connection.

[jeremyp]

   

Evidence?

By the way, it didn't perevent Russia this year, did it?
As Salisbury.

You know there’s a difference between assassinating an individual and whips g out an army in a war.

[SteveH]

You know you're getting old when....
.....something you remember ends up in a blasted museum.
I remember having a cuppa at the Faslane Peace Caravan...a rather decrepit, manky wee thing, but it had a stove, tea and cups - even if there was more bacteria in the cups than in the muck in which the caravan stood.
Now the blasted thing is a museum exhibit in Glasgow's Riverside Museum.

http://www.rampantscotland.com/riverside/page/image43.html

It stands as a testimony to the many, from all walks of life, who kept up a vigil against Polaris and Trident.
Don't worry - it's been replaced by a modern version with better stoves, less bacteria and an internet connection.

My older son was a Faslane peace camper for a year or two in the 90s. Some crappy fashion chain or other pinched their initials (FCUK). I'll send him that link.

[Spud]

Did I start this in the Theism and Atheism category? I wouldn't be surprised, as I found the cheese in the bread bin the other day.

[Anchorman]

Did I start this in the Theism and Atheism category? I wouldn't be surprised, as I found the cheese in the bread bin the other day.

   




There was method in your madness. 'Ploughshares' was, and is, a Christian anti-war movement in the States.
Its' equivalent, Trident Ploughshares, is based on Christian ethics, teaching and grounded in the injunction to beat our swords into ploughshare.
We are an umbrella group, and the bunch I'm involved with, the Iona Community, buys into the group 100%.

http://tridentploughshares.org/introducing-tp/

[SteveH]

You know you're getting old when....
.....something you remember ends up in a blasted museum.
I remember having a cuppa at the Faslane Peace Caravan...a rather decrepit, manky wee thing, but it had a stove, tea and cups - even if there was more bacteria in the cups than in the muck in which the caravan stood.
Now the blasted thing is a museum exhibit in Glasgow's Riverside Museum.

http://www.rampantscotland.com/riverside/page/image43.html

It stands as a testimony to the many, from all walks of life, who kept up a vigil against Polaris and Trident.
Don't worry - it's been replaced by a modern version with better stoves, less bacteria and an internet connection.

I sent that photo to my older son in Australia, who was a Faslane camper in the 90s. He says that it was called "No. 10", and that he lived in it for a few months when he first arrived. He reckons it went to the museum in '97.

[Anchorman]

I sent that photo to my older son in Australia, who was a Faslane camper in the 90s. He says that it was called "No. 10", and that he lived in it for a few months when he first arrived. He reckons it went to the museum in '97.

   

Yes. That was the old Kelvin Hall site.
It's in the fantastic Glasgow Riverside museum now - oh, and so uis a Polaris missile (sans warhead, of course!)

[Robbie]

Did I start this in the Theism and Atheism category? I wouldn't be surprised, as I found the cheese in the bread bin the other day.

Join hte club, when you put car keys in fridge is time to worry .