Methodists affirm gay marriage.

[Aruntraveller]

If that were the case, wouldn't it be normal for women to have a "permanent damp patch"?

Ain't going to dignify that with a reply.

[Gordon]

If that were the case, wouldn't it be normal for women to have a "permanent damp patch"?

No - maybe you need to do a bit of homework on the voiding of urine in humans, Spud.

[Spud]

No - maybe you need to do a bit of homework on the voiding of urine in humans, Spud.

So apparently there is a change of shape of the prostate before micturition, caused by contraction of muscle at the front of the urethra. Regarding this claim from Trent's link, "The prostate controls the flow of urine down the urethra and stops urine from leaving the bladder until a man needs to urinate", why then do only 6-8% of men who've had their prostate removed develop urinary incontinance?

[Gordon]

So apparently there is a change of shape of the prostate before micturition, caused by contraction of muscle at the front of the urethra. Regarding this claim from Trent's link, "The prostate controls the flow of urine down the urethra and stops urine from leaving the bladder until a man needs to urinate", why then do only 6-8% of men who've had their prostate removed develop urinary incontinance?

There is more than just the prostate involved.

[Aruntraveller]

So apparently there is a change of shape of the prostate before micturition, caused by contraction of muscle at the front of the urethra. Regarding this claim from Trent's link, "The prostate controls the flow of urine down the urethra and stops urine from leaving the bladder until a man needs to urinate", why then do only 6-8% of men who've had their prostate removed develop urinary incontinance?

25% initially, falling back to 6-8%, the difference being helped by a variety of methods including drugs and exercises.

[Spud]

25% initially, falling back to 6-8%, the difference being helped by a variety of methods including drugs and exercises.

Fair enough. I'm pretty sure your claim that the prostate prevents incontinence is wrong though. Micturition is controlled by the muscles of the bladder wall and the internal and external sphincters. Surgery can cause damage to these or their nerve supply, resulting in incontinence.

There's movement of the prostate while peeimg, according to recent research, but I suspect this is to do with preventing urine entering the seminal ducts.

[Aruntraveller]

I'm pretty sure your claim that the prostate prevents incontinence is wrong though.

That wasn't my point. My point was that without a prostate you are more likely to suffer incontinence. The rates of incontinence after prostate surgery have over the last two to three decades thankfully fallen with better surgical options and as I said before drugs, exercise and particularly the artificial urinary sphincter (AUS) which was introduced in 1972 and refined over the years since.

[Spud]

That wasn't my point. My point was that without a prostate you are more likely to suffer incontinence. The rates of incontinence after prostate surgery have over the last two to three decades thankfully fallen with better surgical options and as I said before drugs, exercise and particularly the artificial urinary sphincter (AUS) which was introduced in 1972 and refined over the years since.

With respect, TV, that was your point, as you linked to it and also said if I think the prostate is for reproduction [only] then "I can only picture you walking around with a permanent damp patch in your groin area". Now we've established it is not required to prevent damp patches, do you agree it is for reproduction?