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Nearly Sane

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The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« on: April 02, 2025, 07:57:22 AM »
...and believe the White House is on their side.

I'm not sure this is the solution


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypdy05jl9o
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ProfessorDavey

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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2025, 11:15:21 AM »
...and believe the White House is on their side.

I'm not sure this is the solution


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypdy05jl9o
The link doesn't work.

But the last thing the planet needs is more people, and even less so if those people are in a country that has one of the worst per capita CO2 emissions.
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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2025, 11:23:10 AM »
The link doesn't work.

But the last thing the planet needs is more people, and even less so if those people are in a country that has one of the worst per capita CO2 emissions.
Updated m, and also included below. Agree that the 'solution' they have to one issue is problematic for another. I think they better think it out again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypdy05jl9o

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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2025, 02:30:39 PM »
(Prof, it might be downloading  the BBC news app, it works for me?)
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The US Vice President JD Vance has also spoken openly about his views on procreation. At an anti-abortion rally in January he declared: "I want more babies in the United States of America."
VD's thinking, 'oh no the left wokerati are only having 2 children. How can I win the argument? I know let's (procreate) like rabbits until we've  (procreated) enough to win the argument..
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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2025, 04:05:11 PM »
Dear Fellow posters,

Somebody tell me I am wrong, I really want to be told I am wrong :-[

Why do I have pictures in my head of thousands of marching children all with blonde hair and blue eyes.

We are children and we will stick our fingers in the socket just to see what happens.

Tell me I am wrong, please.

Gonnagle.
I will now read posts very carefully and then using the two God given brains cells that I have reply as if I am talking to a two year old, yes that should suffice as a gentle reminder✝️✝️✝️❤️

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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2025, 04:38:24 PM »
(Prof, it might be downloading  the BBC news app, it works for me?)VD's thinking, 'oh no the left wokerati are only having 2 children. How can I win the argument? I know let's (procreate) like rabbits until we've  (procreated) enough to win the argument..
"It gives me a headache, just trying to think down to their level." Marvin, the Paranoid Android)
The problem with that argument is that is assumes that children think exactly like their parents, so persuading conservative parents to have more children will swell the numbers of conservatives in the next generation.

But it doesn't necessarily work like that - a prime example being religion. I've hear a similar argument in relation to religion in the UK - effectively that because religious parents tend to have more children than non-religious parents that the proportion of the population who are non-religious will slowly dwindle as they are overtaken by the offspring of the religious (who those making these arguments will assume will also be religious).

But big spanner in the works - only about 50% of children brought up in religious households end up religious as adults. So all that happens if religious parents have more children is that they swell the numbers of religious and non-religious next generation equally. But the same isn't true for non-religious, where about 95% of the children of parents brought up in a non-religious household end up non-religious as adults.

So effectively no amount of addition procreation by religious parents will swell the numbers of the religious in the next generation.

Now I don't know how this will equate to political positions in the USA, but certainly children have a fairly sizeable propensity to kick back against the political views of their parents. And also there tends to be a generation by generation shift towards liberalism - with many liberal elements considered absolutely accepted, normal and mainstream (e.g. the rights of women, gay people and ethnic minority) while those would have been considered extreme back 2-3 generations ago (e.g. in the 1950s). That there is a short-term kick back against liberalism doesn't alter the long-term trend.

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Re: The influencers who want the US to procreate faster -
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2025, 08:35:32 PM »
Dear Fellow posters,

Somebody tell me I am wrong, ...

Tell me I am wrong, please.

Gonnagle.
Gonners,
Just to reassure you, you are always wrong.
You're welcome .