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Walt Zingmatilder

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Reneging on promises.
« on: July 17, 2015, 06:22:07 PM »
Tories renege on limiting the cap on care.

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2015, 07:31:34 PM »

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2015, 10:52:01 PM »


Just another in what is going to be a long list of unpleasantness to come.
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2015, 08:34:55 AM »


Just another in what is going to be a long list of unpleasantness to come.
So, no real change from the last 40 years of politics, BA.
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2015, 09:00:13 AM »


Just another in what is going to be a long list of unpleasantness to come.
So, no real change from the last 40 years of politics, BA.
So you think pensioners may have been taken advantage of?

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« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2015, 01:49:18 PM »
Tories renege on limiting the cap on care.

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2015, 02:02:22 PM »


Just another in what is going to be a long list of unpleasantness to come.
So, no real change from the last 40 years of politics, BA.
So you think pensioners may have been taken advantage of?

It's an old Tory trick:  a few hand-outs to pensioners as a sop to gain votes.  But you might well consider that they have, indeed, been taken advantage of:

By Dan Hyde, Consumer Affairs Editor8:38AM GMT 27 Oct 2014 ,
 
Workers in Britain face a larger financial shock in retirement than European counterparts because their state pension is "one of the least generous in Europe", a study has found.
The state pension of £113.10 a week is worth just a third of the average salary of someone in work, the International Longevity Centre said.
The "replacement" figure was far below the average of for the rest of Europe, where state retirement payments were worth nearly half national average earnings.
Britain ranked 21st out of 27 countries in the list, the ILC found, giving it one of the least generous pensions in Europe.

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2015, 03:14:13 PM »
Tories renege on limiting the cap on care.

I think that you could generalise that statement:

Politicians renege on promises.
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2015, 03:32:27 PM »
Tories renege on limiting the cap on care.

I think that you could generalise that statement:

Politicians renege on promises.
Yes but only because we shrug our shoulders at there antics to the point where it is those who flag it up who are vilified by not being ''sophisticated enough'' nor ''ironic enough''.
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2015, 03:42:22 PM »
Tories renege on limiting the cap on care.
There should be laws which enforce the promises made by parties and if found they were false a revote should take place...

Would stop the lies... People were stupid to believe the Tories full stop...
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2015, 03:50:27 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2015, 03:55:08 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!
Nevertheless breeches of politician's promises should be flagged up and not shrugged off and taken into account when people are making the decision.

Also in my view, the scrapping of the Northern powerhouse raillinks and this came so swiftly after the election that this is possible pisstaking on an Eton Sixth form scale.

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2015, 07:08:15 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

So..?
Some people are stupid. That doesn't mean they deserve to be deceived and exploited, does it?

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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2015, 08:09:19 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

So..?
Some people are stupid. That doesn't mean they deserve to be deceived and exploited, does it?

Sadly, in this world, that is rather the way that things are.  :(
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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2015, 08:46:46 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

So..?
Some people are stupid. That doesn't mean they deserve to be deceived and exploited, does it?

Sadly, in this world, that is rather the way that things are.  :(

Deserve? Are you sure about that?

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2015, 08:54:58 PM »
Badly worded, I hope - what I want to think LA meant is that they are deceived and exploited, not that they deserve to be.

I'm hanging on for confirmation of this one  ???
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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2015, 09:06:26 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

But that is generally how many voters decide how to vote, unless they are members of a particular party.

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« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2015, 09:21:05 PM »
People are stupid if they believe the promises made by any party during an election campaign will definitely be fulfilled!

But that is generally how many voters decide how to vote, unless they are members of a particular party.

Good point.  Including who not to vote for. If Floo didn't believe the promises made by UKIP, then presumably she wouldn't be so opposed to them. She (quite rightly in my opinion) withholds her support because she believes they would approach immigration and foreign policy in the way that they state they intend to.

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Re: Reneging on promises.
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2015, 10:09:08 PM »
It's an old Tory trick
Sorry BA, it's not an 'old Tory trick'; its standard practice around the world.  Here in the UK, Labour have done it, the Lib Dems have done, The Whigs did it; elsewhere, simply substitute the relevant nation's political party names.
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