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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #50 on: October 04, 2015, 11:53:52 PM »
Quote from: Shaker on October 04, 2015, 10:20:39 PM

Still at a loss as to the relevance. Nobody seems equipped to say.

Cars are large lumps of metal, that, in the hands of an idiot, can kill lots of people. In the USA, they have recognised this and so people who want to drive cars have to pass a test and be licensed. If they demonstrate serious incompetence when in control of a car, they can lose their licence. Furthermore, it is necessary to carry insurance if you want to drive your car on a public road.

It is insane that similar regulations are not in force for the possession and carrying of firearms.

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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2015, 12:01:49 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 04, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
...but whether it is an autonomous human being with a conscious.
By this argument, we oughtn't to be referring to someone as a child until they are about 10!!  assuming that we regard them as having a conscious at the point that they can be deemed to be responsible for their actions.
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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #52 on: October 05, 2015, 06:45:20 AM »
Quote from: Hope on October 05, 2015, 12:01:49 AM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 04, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
...but whether it is an autonomous human being with a conscious.
By this argument, we oughtn't to be referring to someone as a child until they are about 10!!  assuming that we regard them as having a conscious at the point that they can be deemed to be responsible for their actions.

You are missing the point. It's not about labels.
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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #53 on: October 05, 2015, 11:35:21 AM »
Quote from: jeremyp on October 05, 2015, 06:45:20 AM
You are missing the point. It's not about labels.
And you are making that same mistake - labelling human beings dependent on their age/posssession of a conscience/autonomity
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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #54 on: October 05, 2015, 03:10:40 PM »
Quote from: Hope on October 05, 2015, 11:35:21 AM
Quote from: jeremyp on October 05, 2015, 06:45:20 AM
You are missing the point. It's not about labels.
And you are making that same mistake - labelling human beings dependent on their age/posssession of a conscience/autonomity
Nope.

I'm talking about properties of humans. You are talking about labels.
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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #55 on: October 05, 2015, 06:52:29 PM »
In case you missed the subtlety the point I was making was that comparing miscarriages to abortion is like comparing car accidents to shootings.
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Re: Mass killings are contagious
« Reply #56 on: October 05, 2015, 08:13:04 PM »
Quote from: 2Corrie on October 05, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
In case you missed the subtlety the point I was making was that comparing miscarriages to abortion is like comparing car accidents to shootings.

What is your point in the context of this latest mass shooting?
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