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Re: Stress!
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2015, 09:04:15 AM »
Hey Sriram watch out tiger!

Five minutes later despite the agony of having being eaten alive Sriram assures me he has endured no stress at all and has sustained a 'happy mindset'.

I think that this would have been more meaningful had you written:

Hey Sriram, watch out! TIGER!

The lack of punctuation renders it meaningless.
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Re: Stress!
« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2015, 09:11:22 AM »
Hey Sriram watch out tiger!

Five minutes later despite the agony of having being eaten alive Sriram assures me he has endured no stress at all and has sustained a 'happy mindset'.

I think that this would have been more meaningful had you written:

Hey Sriram, watch out! TIGER!

The lack of punctuation renders it meaningless.

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Re: Stress!
« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2015, 09:50:27 AM »
Hey Sriram watch out tiger!

Five minutes later despite the agony of having being eaten alive Sriram assures me he has endured no stress at all and has sustained a 'happy mindset'.

I think that this would have been more meaningful had you written:

Hey Sriram, watch out! TIGER!

The lack of punctuation renders it meaningless.

Fair point have edited!
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Re: Stress!
« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2015, 10:28:12 AM »
Fear is attached to stress; so if you can take out the element of fear and bring things into perspective, the feeling of stress reduces rapidly.
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Re: Stress!
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2015, 10:45:00 AM »
Quite.  No need to stress over tigers if you have the right attitude towards being eaten.
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Re: Stress!
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2015, 01:10:47 PM »
Hey Sriram watch out tiger!

Five minutes later despite the agony of having being eaten alive Sriram assures me he has endured no stress at all and has sustained a 'happy mindset'.

I think that this would have been more meaningful had you written:

Hey Sriram, watch out! TIGER!

The lack of punctuation renders it meaningless.

I thought he was calling Sriram 'Tiger' which seemed overly affectionate.  :)

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Re: Stress!
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2015, 01:29:43 PM »
Sriram, how - in essence - does this differ from what I have already written but which you have dismissed?

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Yet another interpretation of stress is that it is the result of an imbalance in the appraisal between the perceived demand of a situation and the individual's perception of his own capability to perform the task. It seems to me that a very simplified version of this is what is being described by the guru.

I have not dismissed it. My point is not really about our capability.  Its about what any experience means to us. Its about perception.

For example...the TIGER that Jakswan talks about. Being eaten alive can be stressful...but only to one who wants to live!  If you don't mind being eaten alive, where is the stress?  I remember a guy in Britain or US or somewhere who replied to an ad by a cannibal requesting for people to be eaten. He stayed with the cannibal, they both ate parts of the victims genitals and then he got stabbed and dismembered by the cannibal....willingly!!   

Rather extreme of course...but brings out the point about how  our mind, perception and motivations can change things.

More positively, many people sacrifice their lives willingly  in the name of God or to save someone else.
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« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2015, 01:34:38 PM »
However stress can be a normal and healthy reaction to an event. I still maintain that it causes harm when the conflict between the event and the reaction cannot be resolved, and especially when it is prolonged.

I agree wholeheartedly that an ability to change our attitude can aid in diminishing the stress element, as the video suggests. This would work particularly well if the person is prone to suffer stress abnormally.

But, as I have already said, normally if the event that leads to the stressful situation can be resolved, then the stress element should diminish or hopefully disappear.

And sometimes a person is able to choose a situation that may be stressful, and, I suggest, by being more in control of events that person is more likely to manage their stress reactions in a positive way.
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« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2015, 01:41:34 PM »
Being eaten alive can be stressful...but only to one who wants to live!  If you don't mind being eaten alive, where is the stress?

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Re: Stress!
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2015, 01:43:03 PM »
Being eaten alive can be stressful...but only to one who wants to live!  If you don't mind being eaten alive, where is the stress?

In Sriram's next instalment we'll find out without eyes you would not see! Who knew!

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Re: Stress!
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2015, 01:45:08 PM »
However stress can be a normal and healthy reaction to an event. I still maintain that it causes harm when the conflict between the event and the reaction cannot be resolved, and especially when it is prolonged.

I agree wholeheartedly that an ability to change our attitude can aid in diminishing the stress element, as the video suggests. This would work particularly well if the person is prone to suffer stress abnormally.

But, as I have already said, normally if the event that leads to the stressful situation can be resolved, then the stress element should diminish or hopefully disappear.

And sometimes a person is able to choose a situation that may be stressful, and, I suggest, by being more in control of events that person is more likely to manage their stress reactions in a positive way.



You are also talking about perception and motivation. If a person brings about a 'stressful' situation willingly....it is clearly not stressful  to him. He likes it. Like the guy eaten by the cannibal. People enjoy horror movies.

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Re: Stress!
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2015, 01:55:58 PM »
However stress can be a normal and healthy reaction to an event. I still maintain that it causes harm when the conflict between the event and the reaction cannot be resolved, and especially when it is prolonged.

I agree wholeheartedly that an ability to change our attitude can aid in diminishing the stress element, as the video suggests. This would work particularly well if the person is prone to suffer stress abnormally.

But, as I have already said, normally if the event that leads to the stressful situation can be resolved, then the stress element should diminish or hopefully disappear.

And sometimes a person is able to choose a situation that may be stressful, and, I suggest, by being more in control of events that person is more likely to manage their stress reactions in a positive way.



You are also talking about perception and motivation. If a person brings about a 'stressful' situation willingly....it is clearly not stressful  to him. He likes it. Like the guy eaten by the cannibal. People enjoy horror movies.

Which point I don't disagree with and which is covered by my first sentence and my last paragraph in reply 32.
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Re: Stress!
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2015, 05:53:38 PM »


Hi everyone,

You can watch some of the other videos at the above site if you are interested.  They are good. Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev is pretty articulate and he keeps it simple. He almost never speaks about religion. Its always about the human mind and its workings.

Cheers.

Sriram