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Ricky Spanish

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Vote no confidence in David Cameron.
« on: November 11, 2015, 11:14:05 PM »
This has passed the required number of signatures for it to be considered for debate in parliament:

"The current Tory government has caused devastation for the poorest in society for the last 5 years. We cannot afford another 5 years of Tory rule, with the recent welfare reform that will cause nothing but immense poverty in the UK."

[Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate.]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104471




This petition currently stands at 176,306 signatures and rises by a couple of thousand a day..

Two questions:

Would you add your name and share the link?

What are the chances of Parliment rejecting the petition?


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Re: Vote no confidence in David Cameron.
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2015, 08:43:31 AM »
I suspect that Parliament would regard it as vexatious, silly, pointless and an infringement of Parliamentary privilege - as well as unconstitutional. It will probably not be debated.

There is a mechanism for removing an unpopular government - it is called a general election. 11.3 million people voted in the last election for the Conservative Party which had indicated its economic strategy in its manifesto so 180,000 or so malcontents are pretty small beer anyway.

Much as I may sympathise with the sentiment in the petition, I would not waste my time and energy by adding my name to it.

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Re: Vote no confidence in David Cameron.
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2015, 10:37:02 AM »
This has passed the required number of signatures for it to be considered for debate in parliament:

"The current Tory government has caused devastation for the poorest in society for the last 5 years. We cannot afford another 5 years of Tory rule, with the recent welfare reform that will cause nothing but immense poverty in the UK."

[Parliament considers all petitions that get more than 100,000 signatures for a debate.]

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104471




This petition currently stands at 176,306 signatures and rises by a couple of thousand a day..

Two questions:

Would you add your name and share the link?

What are the chances of Parliment rejecting the petition?
Thrud, there are a couple of problems with the petition.  The current Tory government has NOT caused devastation for the poorest in society for the last 5 years; it has only been in power for 6 months.  The government that is referred to (for the previous 5 years) was a Tory/Lib Dem coalition government.  As such, I suspect that the petition would fall simply on factual accuracy. 

As for the second half of the statement, the indications are that the welfare reforms themselves will not "cause nothing but immense poverty in the UK."  If anything will, it will be the poorly though out timetable, whereby the benefits people currently receive will be removed before the replacement ones are fully introduced. 

With the exception of this timetable issue, I can't see any other way of reducing an otherwise exorbitant Welfare budget that is sadly being exploited by both the clever and the lazy.  I am sure that there will be many who suffer from them - though all research shows that it won't be the really poor who will suffer but those 1 or 2 rungs up the wealth ladder.

Simply ensuring that the rich and businesses pay their fair whack in taxes, corportae and individual, will not balance the problem, though that is no reason for not working on this.

So, no I won't be signing the petition or forwarding the link.  I would consider doing so with one that was factually correct and which proposed a viable way forward.
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Re: Vote no confidence in David Cameron.
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2015, 10:40:53 AM »

It seems the Petition has already been rejected, though I may be wrong.  I would sign it if it is still open.
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Re: Vote no confidence in David Cameron.
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2015, 10:58:39 AM »

Much as I may sympathise with the sentiment in the petition, I would not waste my time and energy by adding my name to it.

Plus the petition is wrong. The current Tory government has not been in power for five years. Until last May (is it really only that long ago, it seems like forever), we had a coalition government, however, the electorate chose to punish the smaller party in it (the moderating influence) and leave the extremist nutters in power by themselves.

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