Author Topic: Shrinewatch UK  (Read 2288 times)

Walt Zingmatilder

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Shrinewatch UK
« on: January 30, 2016, 01:19:38 PM »
Oh dear, it seems they are back.

A little labelled up sub section in the local Waterstones marked ''Richard Dawkins''
and ''The God Delusion'' prominently on display. As if this isn't arseclenchingly fauning what makes it worse is that it is in the POPULAR SCIENCE section.

Although I feel vindicated in my warnings about atheism being equated with science on a national scale, this and the fact that we now have once discerning atheists like Nearly Sane and his methodology thing tending in this direction is indeed worrying.

An e mail to that multimillion pound corporation Waterstones could be in the offing.

''The God Delusion'' is of course not science. 

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2016, 01:36:22 PM »
I haven't read it for quite a while, but I wonder, can you quote anything in it which is not backed up by evidence obtained from the scientific method?

I am open to correction by anyone who has read it more recently.)(
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2016, 01:43:09 PM »
I haven't read it for quite a while, but I wonder, can you quote anything in it which is not backed up by evidence obtained from the scientific method?

I am open to correction by anyone who has read it more recently.)(
Yes, his advocacy of a Smolin-type multiverse.
His definitions of God.

He cannot draw any statement of God from science since science is methodologically naturalistic.

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2016, 02:06:42 PM »
Oh dear, it seems they are back.

A little labelled up sub section in the local Waterstones marked ''Richard Dawkins''
and ''The God Delusion'' prominently on display. As if this isn't arseclenchingly fauning what makes it worse is that it is in the POPULAR SCIENCE section.

Although I feel vindicated in my warnings about atheism being equated with science on a national scale, this and the fact that we now have once discerning atheists like Nearly Sane and his methodology thing tending in this direction is indeed worrying.

An e mail to that multimillion pound corporation Waterstones could be in the offing.
I'm sure like all big corporations they get the odd - very odd - crank email from random nutters, Vlad.
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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2016, 02:10:01 PM »
I'm sure like all big corporations they get the odd - very odd - crank email from random nutters, Vlad.
What you mean like ''make sure my book is uniquely labelled and in the popular science section''?

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2016, 02:12:46 PM »
What you mean like ''make sure my book is uniquely labelled and in the popular science section''?
No, nothing like that as the placing of books would be down to the store manager following company policy. I was thinking more of your e-mail "in the offing" about your favourite man-crush.
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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2016, 02:16:51 PM »
No, nothing like that as the placing of books would be down to the store manager following company policy. I was thinking more of your e-mail "in the offing" about your favourite man-crush.
I'm just pointing out that a book on religion has been placed in the wrong section. Got a problem with that?

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2016, 02:27:03 PM »
I'm just pointing out that a book on religion has been placed in the wrong section. Got a problem with that?
No, if that's 'just' what you were doing (although it would be a highly peculiar thing to contact a chain of bookshops about).

Except it wasn't and isn't. The use of the word "Shrinewatch" in the title of the thread; the phrase "Oh dear, it seems they are back" (who are they?); the use of the phrase "arseclenchingly fauning" [sic] for the standard practice of having a small display dedicated to a specific author's work; and an entirely irrelevant digression into feeling vindicated about your "warnings about atheism being equated with science on a national scale" all bespeak the latest round in your ongoing monomania with regard to Dawkins and his work.

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2016, 02:39:56 PM »
No, if that's 'just' what you were doing (although it would be a highly peculiar thing to contact a chain of bookshops about).

Except it wasn't and isn't. The use of the word "Shrinewatch" in the title of the thread; the phrase "Oh dear, it seems they are back" (who are they?); the use of the phrase "arseclenchingly fauning" [sic] for the standard practice of having a small display dedicated to a specific author's work; and an entirely irrelevant digression into feeling vindicated about your "warnings about atheism being equated with science on a national scale" all bespeak the latest round in your ongoing monomania with regard to Dawkins and his work.
I can't deny it.......Atheism is being equated on a national scale and part of the evidence is that a national bookseller is putting a book on antitheism in the popular science section.

Now....that is either a national bookseller doing that or there is a national confusion between science and atheism which a bookseller is serving by classifying it as POPULAR science.

It has gone beyond the comic faux homoerotic yearnings of an albeit amusing raconteur on a tiny forum.

This thing is now bigger than both of us Shaker.

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2016, 05:28:50 PM »
Oh dear, it seems they are back.

A little labelled up sub section in the local Waterstones marked ''Richard Dawkins''
and ''The God Delusion'' prominently on display. As if this isn't arseclenchingly fauning what makes it worse is that it is in the POPULAR SCIENCE section.

Although I feel vindicated in my warnings about atheism being equated with science on a national scale, this and the fact that we now have once discerning atheists like Nearly Sane and his methodology thing tending in this direction is indeed worrying.

An e mail to that multimillion pound corporation Waterstones could be in the offing.

''The God Delusion'' is of course not science.

Worse than that Vlad, they put fantasy novels in the Science Fiction section, now that is sacriscienctitious.

ippy
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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 10:58:11 PM »
Worse than that Vlad, they put fantasy novels in the Science Fiction section, now that is sacriscienctitious.

ippy

So, presumably, if Vlad writes a book on the "anti-theist conspiracy" it will be placed in the Science Fiction section then, being a Fantasy story??
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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2016, 02:43:39 PM »
So, presumably, if Vlad writes a book on the "anti-theist conspiracy" it will be placed in the Science Fiction section then, being a Fantasy story??

No, I think that gets put on the rolled-up shelf in the stalls at the back, near the hand-basins...

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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2016, 03:46:43 PM »
No, I think that gets put on the rolled-up shelf in the stalls at the back, near the hand-basins...

O.

Only if it is printed on especially soft paper! Otherwise people will refuse to use it even for that purpose! Cleaning the mirrors, I mean!
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Re: Shrinewatch UK
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2016, 07:25:00 PM »
So, presumably, if Vlad writes a book on the "anti-theist conspiracy" it will be placed in the Science Fiction section then, being a Fantasy story??

As things stand unfortunately you're more than likely right  ;D ;D ;D

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