I'm sure I'm not mistaken.

[Gordon]

Well take Art for example or philosophy or sociology or theology and even history which deals with the unrepeatable and does not have methodologically the same predictive power of science.

These are all domains of study with their own methods.

Now assess the unfalsifiable against something falsifiable which you stated in reply#67 or we're done here.

Nope - you are the one in the driving seat here, Vlad:  'with the utmost academic interest' you said, so what did you have in mind?

[ippy]

The secular world has made it's judgment on us all Ippy, we are on a scale of irreversible progress, so those secularists of 3016 will see us as scientifically, technologically and morally primitive.......so logically we must be.

Through our media we are constantly being told how inadequate we are, and our governments and monitoring bodies tell us how inadequate and indeed potentially dangerous we are to each other.

I think this is being hidden from you or you are deliberately failing to see it for yourself........

.....and if, with all of that you still think of yourself as adequate....in which case you should still be wearing flares...I bet you are able to real of a list of people who aren't.

You're a little bit over optimistic there Vlad, 3016, when we look at the exponential figures we see whenever we see another poll about how many people are remaining that continue to hold with these delusional religious beliefs.

ippy

[Gonnagle]

Dear ippy,

From post 55.

So I'm told it's about 50 50 between religion based charities, Gonners and charities that have no connection to religion, what's that all about then, on the charity level no difference in the amount of effort.

Which shows that there is no extra effort needed, a place where stories don't give out any particularly special added edge.

The last thing I think of when giving to charity is anything to do with my liking or not liking of religiosity.

Nearly forgot, non-religious people that do charitable acts can't help but be more altruistic than anyone in whatever religions name they try to be charitable,(non-religious people do these deeds without the carrot and stick).

Sorry mate I was not arguing against, I was simply throwing out another avenue for you to consider.

Gonnagle.

[ippy]

Dear ippy,

From post 55.

Sorry mate I was not arguing against, I was simply throwing out another avenue for you to consider.

Gonnagle.

I take your point Gonners but it appears that overall the religious don't seem to have any more inclination toward  helping the poor of this world than do non-religious organisations, it pleases me to see the poor helped by any group, but not in the way the RC in particular with their badly mistaken ideas about birth control, or anything else like that where it takes all of a half of a millisecond of thought to know they have got that wrong. 

ippy