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Elie Wiesel dead
« on: July 02, 2016, 09:32:06 PM »
No shock given he was 87 but still sad

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2016, 09:18:08 AM »
I had never heard of him until I looked him up.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2016, 12:45:35 PM »
He was a remarkable man, an intellectual, who had witnessed first hand the horrors of the holocaust including the death of his father and a sibling.  Something which interests me particularly is his friendship with "The Rebbe", Rabbi Menechem Schneerson, who was something of a mentor to Elie Weisel despite Mr Wiesel being a secular Jew, an agnostic;  Elie Weisel's father came from the same tradition as Mr Schneerson so there was some early influence and that may have something to do with it.
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Re: Elie Wiesel dead
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2016, 10:52:44 PM »
He was a remarkable man, an intellectual, who had witnessed first hand the horrors of the holocaust including the death of his father and a sibling.  Something which interests me particularly is his friendship with "The Rebbe", Rabbi Menechem Schneerson, who was something of a mentor to Elie Weisel despite Mr Wiesel being a secular Jew, an agnostic;  Elie Weisel's father came from the same tradition as Mr Schneerson so there was some early influence and that may have something to do with it.

Having gone through terrible times I can see why the Rebbe was his mentor, it ties up with the idea of the rightious gentile and the Noahide laws.

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His message: become righteous
On Sunday, March 1, 1992, Gabriel Erem, the editor of Lifestyles Magazine told Schneerson that on the occasion of his ninetieth birthday they would be publishing a special issue and wanted to know what his message to the world was. Schneerson replied that "'Ninety,' in Hebrew, is ‘tzaddik,’ which means ‘righteous.’ And that is a direct indication for every person to become a real tzaddik - a righteous person, and to do so for many years, until 120." This message, Schneerson added, applies equally to Jews and non-Jews.[112]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menachem_Mendel_Schneerson



The message of those that survived the holocaust is often that we shouldn't forget and let it happen again.

They value, especially value those people that helped, the rightious Gentiles.

The Rebbe also taught a message about kindness and taught about the 7 noahide laws that he thought was the basis for every civilisation.

It is relevant because It is about being good and living a rightious life, making the world around you as good as it could be, making it better.

In such a world there is no room for holocausts because it's about valuing another human being and self responsibility.

I can see exactly why the Rebbe was his mentor apart from him coming from that background

If Elie was secular, the basic teachings would have come across as a " shared humanity" no matter who people are.

The Rebbe set up the Noahide movement.

The message of the holocaust survivors is often to teach about it to change people's hearts, so they are aware of what a terrible thing it was, and that we are all human.
No one should have to go through that again.

Many Jews believe that non Jews just have fewer laws to obey.




« Last Edit: July 03, 2016, 11:31:18 PM by Rose »

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2016, 11:15:26 PM »
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mend-World-Foundations-Post-Holocaust-Thought/dp/025332114X

Mending the world is known as
tikkun olam

A Christian writes on it here

http://brianzahnd.com/2012/04/to-mend-the-world/

This link is interesting too

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“Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, which has turned my life into one long night, seven times cursed and seven times sealed,” Wiesel wrote. “Never shall I forget that smoke. Never shall I forget the little faces of the children, whose bodies I saw turned into wreaths of smoke beneath a silent blue sky. Never shall I forget those flames which consumed my faith forever.”

Rabbi Arnold Rachlis of University Synagogue in Irvine said he was moved by “Night” around 1967 as a student at the University of Pennsylvania. He said it helped “break the silence about the Holocaust.”

“He could have taken all his experiences and been angry, vengeful and bitter,” said Rachlis, who later met Wiesel and exchanged correspondence with him. “Instead, he really devoted himself to tikkun olam – a very important term in Judaism meaning healing the world or repairing a broken world.”

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wiesel-721318-holocaust-books.html