What constitutes a methodology?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

I haven't gone nuclear all I've done is ask "what constitutes a methodology.

When that dictionary arrives from Amazon and you've finally looked up "non sequitur", try looking up "disingenuous" too.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

When that dictionary arrives from Amazon and you've finally looked up "non sequitur", try looking up "disingenuous" too.

Try addressing the thread title or carry out your threat to leave this thread to others.

[Sebastian Toe]

Try addressing the thread title or carry out your threat to leave this thread to others.

..what others?
Nobody is biting! 

[bluehillside Retd.]

Seb,

..what others?
Nobody is biting!

Quite so. Now he's been busted, why would they?

[SusanDoris]

A couple of comments:
I have always understood that words ending in -ology refer to 'the study of' and have googled this:

Description: This is a list of words ending with suffix "ology", meaning "study of, science of.".

I think people started saying 'methodology' as it sounds more important than 'method' ... or something!!

[Sebastian Toe]

Seb,

Quite so. Now he's been busted, why would they?

.....or....now you have been sussed, why would they?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Seb,

.....or....now you have been sussed, why would they?

?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

..what others?
Nobody is biting! 

They haven't gone onto the thread because they feel a little funny.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Seb,

?

I think he means now you've been sussed Blue.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

I think he means now you've been sussed Blue.

That'd be surprising given that opposite is true, though no doubt you're more than capable of bringing the wishful thinking you apply to your religious beliefs to this issue too. Still, now we know that you have no interest whatever in having "methodology" explained to you, but just want to use the explanation to fall again into the going nuclear trap that the essay you lied about by Stephen Law rebuts perfectly well, I guess your latest piece of clunky disingenuousness is dead anyway.     

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

That'd be surprising given that opposite is true, though no doubt you're more than capable of bringing the wishful thinking you apply to your religious beliefs to this issue too. Still, now we know that you have no interest whatever in having "methodology" explained to you, but just want to use the explanation to fall again into the going nuclear trap that the essay you lied about by Stephen Law rebuts perfectly well, I guess your latest piece of clunky disingenuousness is dead anyway.   

What can possibly be clunky or disingenuous about asking people what constitutes a methodology?

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

What can possibly be clunky or disingenuous about asking people what constitutes a methodology?

We could pick this up on the 1-1 thread. It fits nicely the number 1 option I suggestion, well maybe with a bit of tweaking anyway.

Sure we could work something out. If you respond to the PM I sent we can pick it up there.

[jeremyp]

In software engineering, a methodology is a system of processes (or methods) that you use to build computer systems.

I think the definition could be generalized.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

In software engineering, a methodology is a system of processes (or methods) that you use to build computer systems.

I think the definition could be generalized.

Thanks.

[SusanDoris]

In software engineering, a methodology is a system of processes (or methods) that you use to build computer systems.

I think the definition could be generalized.

Why is it called a methodology instead of a method?!

[jeremyp]

Why is it called a methodology instead of a method?!

Because it may include several methods.

[Étienne d'Angleterre]

Why is it called a methodology instead of a method?!

I think they can, and are, used interchangeably depending on what is being discussed. A method (potentially also known as an assay) is a specific protocol where as methodology refers to a more broad brush approach. I am lucky to have had a varied career, mostly physical chemistry but also studying human behaviours and the drivers for them. In each, we need a way of supporting claims i.e. this ingredient drives buying preference and in others, this product contains ingredient x at y%. Also, this material consists of certain mesophases.

For each claim you need different methods, but you need something to be able to determine if the evidence is strong enough to support the claims you make.

Contrast this with the answers to prayers and Hope's view, not just on that thread but others to. You might pray for healing and it happens. Hooray a miracle. It doesn't happen; well it was God doing what was best.

It is a busted flush, you can't tell the difference between divine intervention and random chance. That is why we ask for a methodology, but alas, none is ever forthcoming.

 

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I think they can, and are, used interchangeably depending on what is being discussed. A method (potentially also known as an assay) is a specific protocol where as methodology refers to a more broad brush approach. I am lucky to have had a varied career, mostly physical chemistry but also studying human behaviours and the drivers for them. In each, we need a way of supporting claims i.e. this ingredient drives buying preference and in others, this product contains ingredient x at y%. Also, this material consists of certain mesophases.

For each claim you need different methods, but you need something to be able to determine if the evidence is strong enough to support the claims you make.

Contrast this with the answers to prayers and Hope's view, not just on that thread but others to. You might pray for healing and it happens. Hooray a miracle. It doesn't happen; well it was God doing what was best.

It is a busted flush, you can't tell the difference between divine intervention and random chance. That is why we ask for a methodology, but alas, none is ever forthcoming.

 

I think you'll find Polkinghorne interesting. He kind of suggests miracles as highly improbable events rather than impossible events..............I think.

[SusanDoris]

thank you for replies. Ah, so it's one of those  new-fangled ideas is it? Being an old fuddy-duddy, I looked up the etymology and rather like the following:

Etymologically, methodology refers to the study of methods. Thus the use of methodology as a synonym for methods (or other simple terms such as means, technique, or procedure) is proscribed as both inaccurate and pretentious.

from this link:
 https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/methodology

But of course language has to adapt to current use I suppose!