Universalism

[bluehillside Retd.]

AB,

Billions of human beings would disagree.

That's called the argumentum ad populum, yet another of the various logical fallacies you commit. 

It also incidentally gives you the problem that many of those billions don't believe in your god at all. If you really want to go the route of truth as a popularity contest though, shouldn't you convert to Islam before it's too late?

[Sebastian Toe]

Billions of human beings would disagree.

billions of human beings would disagree that your god is the God. Now what?

[Walter]

AB,

That's called the argumentum ad populum, yet another of the various logical fallacies you commit. 

It also incidentally gives you the problem that many of those billions don't believe in your god at all. If you really want to go the route of truth as a popularity contest though, shouldn't you convert to Islam before it's too late?

peace be upon him , phew!

[ippy]

The story is given to illustrate the nature of God's love for us, and it aptly illustrates the error in your post about God's love giving salvation to all, even when it is rejected.  God gives us the ability to freely choose our destiny - He does not force this choice upon us.

It must be frustrating for you when as you must be aware your belief has no foundation in fact, you can't establish that there is anything in or factual about any of the magical mystical or superstition based parts of them.

Anybody can make assertions, even if it's several billion making the assertions, if it'not true it doesn't matter how many people assert it, it'still not true.

It's a little worrying several posters on this thread have tried to explain the above to you and you still can't get it, you should be worried too A B.

ippy

[Jack Knave]

That reads like a tawdry choice to indulge apologetics rather than doing the right thing.  If a teaching or a law appears to be wrong or divisive or unhelpful or hurtful then what is wrong in saying so ? It is a triumph for tribalism over personal integrity to settle for ignoring what your own conscience is telling you and instead yielding to group think; it is a triumph for weakness over courage to avoid the challenge of questioning your deepest assumptions. Many christians seem to be able to distance themselves from the excesses of the wrathful Old Testament god with talk of context, applicability to the Jewish people etc. but seem to have a blind spot when in comes to the need for contextualisation in respect of the New Testament.  All scriptures, whether written by Hindu or Jew or Moslem or Christian have at least one thing in common, they are all written by humans and all humans get things wrong, it comes with the territory.  And if we can all admit to our human fallibility then the world would be a less divisive, friendlier place.

After your comments on the EU on another thread it is a shame you don't enforce your high ideals on yourself with regards to the EU. They have rules and laws that harm their people because they keep to their treaties and ideology which for them is their 'Bible'.

[torridon]

After your comments on the EU on another thread it is a shame you don't enforce your high ideals on yourself with regards to the EU. They have rules and laws that harm their people because they keep to their treaties and ideology which for them is their 'Bible'.

I'm really not interested in your naive conspiracy theories Jack,  Just grow up.

[Jack Knave]

I'm really not interested in your naive conspiracy theories Jack,  Just grow up.

But it is your conspiracy theory that I entertain conspiracy theories that is at fault here. So why don't you grow up and stick to the facts.