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Brownie

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Re: Theology at Universities?
« Reply #250 on: January 26, 2017, 04:45:54 PM »
Ippy: One thing for a start would be to stop giving undue prominence to religious ideas, such as having a university subject headed as theology, when theology should come under the general heading of philosophy.


You've said that umpteen times on this thread, ippy, we all get that is what you mean!  It may well pan out that way too in the near future.

I get what you mean about religious indoctrination too, subtle and not so subtle, and your hatred for it comes across clearly.  However there is plenty of subtle and not so subtle indoctrination of other ideas which we all come across every day, we only have to put on the TV to experience that and it is far more prevalent than god-bothering.

We are not going to be able to ban personal opinion or stop people expressing their opinions to others.  Whether it be obsession with religion (for or against),  politics, money,  cosmetic surgery,  criminology, sport or whatever.  Many of those subjects have dangers and are studied at university in one form or another.  We can't ban things just because they make us see red or because we fear our children might take them up and come to harm.

As for my "RC lot", I've said several times that I am not a practicing Catholic and haven't been so for many a long year.
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Re: Theology at Universities?
« Reply #251 on: January 26, 2017, 05:17:32 PM »
Ippy: One thing for a start would be to stop giving undue prominence to religious ideas, such as having a university subject headed as theology, when theology should come under the general heading of philosophy.


You've said that umpteen times on this thread, ippy, we all get that is what you mean!  It may well pan out that way too in the near future.

I get what you mean about religious indoctrination too, subtle and not so subtle, and your hatred for it comes across clearly.  However there is plenty of subtle and not so subtle indoctrination of other ideas which we all come across every day, we only have to put on the TV to experience that and it is far more prevalent than god-bothering.

We are not going to be able to ban personal opinion or stop people expressing their opinions to others.  Whether it be obsession with religion (for or against),  politics, money,  cosmetic surgery,  criminology, sport or whatever.  Many of those subjects have dangers and are studied at university in one form or another.  We can't ban things just because they make us see red or because we fear our children might take them up and come to harm.

Sorry Brownie, banning things? I don't see the connection to anything I have written here on this thread?

Sorry about the repeats but to be fair, the point I'm trying to make is taking some conciderable time to sink in in some quarters, necessititating repeat performances.

Not quite so much hate of religion, yes dislike of, more they keep on getting away with it and why should they.
(Grabing unwarented positions and privilleges, just in case anyone wondered what it is they keep getting away with).

As for standing on some sort of mythical high horse and then targeting very young children, does incline me to think religionists in general are in a kind of distastefull indoctrinational premiership league of their own making.

ippy


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Re: Theology at Universities?
« Reply #252 on: January 26, 2017, 05:52:06 PM »
BUT what are your criteria for things that 'are subject to indoctrination which resembles religion'? You seemed to suggest that the things put up didn't have 'god' in them, which is surely then mostly a tautology?
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Re: Theology at Universities?
« Reply #253 on: January 27, 2017, 07:56:19 AM »
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BUT what are your criteria for things that 'are subject to indoctrination which resembles religion'? You seemed to suggest that the things put up didn't have 'god' in them, which is surely then mostly a tautology?
Many ideas, supposedly holy books and  sets of rules can be indoctrinated, but I cannot think of any idea, principle or law  which is considered to be other than a wholly human one, outside of all religious ideas, even though peoplewith religious beliefs have framed them. If what I said sounds like a tautology, well, perhaps it is worth saying twice!!
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Re: Theology at Universities?
« Reply #254 on: February 15, 2017, 12:47:21 PM »