Beauty from ugliness

[Nearly Sane]

This is a lovely story but haunted by the atrocity of someone having 39 family members murdered.


http://www.scotsman.com/regions/dundee-tayside/auschwitz-survivor-saved-by-scots-soldier-husband-dies-1-4495330

[floo]

An inspirational story.

[Owlswing]

Maybe it is my family history or just my twisted and warped view of the world as a whole but one thing about the article that struck me, other, of course, than the obvious bond between the couple.

The lady survived Auschwitz and when she died she was cremated.

[Robbie]

I don't follow, Owlswing. She would have to be either buried or cremated, like all of us.

What I noted was that she was in a care home, sad to think she couldn't have been looked after at home.

What a beautiful woman! It's a lovely story, her 96 year old husband will be so lost without her after seventy one years.

[Owlswing]

I don't follow, Owlswing. She would have to be either buried or cremated, like all of us.

What I noted was that she was in a care home, sad to think she couldn't have been looked after at home.

What a beautiful woman! It's a lovely story, her 96 year old husband will be so lost without her after seventy one years.

Sorry, Robinson, but when I wrote my post I was sure I had mucked up the language I used, not used the words I was searching for - it is happening more and more these days - senility etc!

The word I was looking for at the time but could not find was 'incongruity'.

I lost family, Dutch Jews, at Auschwitz - in the parlance of the day - they left the camp via the chimney.

I found the fact that her family, who knew of her narrow escape from such a fate, should choose to cremate her rather than just give her a simple burial.

[Nearly Sane]

Sorry, Robinson, but when I wrote my post I was sure I had mucked up the language I used, not used the words I was searching for - it is happening more and more these days - senility etc!

The word I was looking for at the time but could not find was 'incongruity'.

I lost family, Dutch Jews, at Auschwitz - in the parlance of the day - they left the camp via the chimney.

I found the fact that her family, who knew of her narrow escape from such a fate, should choose to cremate her rather than just give her a simple burial.

You know it wasn't her choice how?

[Robbie]

Owlswing thanks for explaining & sorry to hear about your relatives.

It;s possible she and her husband had discussed funeral arrangements with their children as most people do. They wouldn't have arranged something she wasn't happy with.

I understand what you are saying but her cremation would not have been the same sort of thing as the poor souls murdered in concentration camps.

Sounds as though her life turned out to be a happy one which is most important thing.

[Owlswing]

Owlswing thanks for explaining & sorry to hear about your relatives.

It;s possible she and her husband had discussed funeral arrangements with their children as most people do. They wouldn't have arranged something she wasn't happy with.

I understand what you are saying but her cremation would not have been the same sort of thing as the poor souls murdered in concentration camps.

Sounds as though her life turned out to be a happy one which is most important thing.

I agree, totally, that it might well have been a decision made with the lady's involvement, I have no way of knowing - I didn't claim anything of the sort.

I merely stated MY VIEW that for an Auschwitz survivor to be cremated was an incingruity, a view I stilll hold regardless of any facts of which there is no way I can be aware.

Some people need to learn the difference between what I posted and what they seem to think I posted in order to make me look less intelligent than them.

[floo]

Maybe it is my family history or just my twisted and warped view of the world as a whole but one thing about the article that struck me, other, of course, than the obvious bond between the couple.

The lady survived Auschwitz and when she died she was cremated.

Maybe that is what she wished done with her remains.

[Robbie]

That's very likely floo.

Sorry Owlswing, I hope you didn't mean me in your last sentence. Not had much to do with you so far but certainly wasn't questioning or even thinking about your intelligence. All i was saying was how i assessed it, nothing else meant & certainly nothing personal against you.

I understood your feelings on the subject and if, like yourself, i had lost relatives in conentration camps am sure the 'darkness' would not leave me. I may well have seen incongruity as you did.

[Owlswing]

That's very likely floo.

Sorry Owlswing, I hope you didn't mean me in your last sentence. Not had much to do with you so far but certainly wasn't questioning or even thinking about your intelligence. All i was saying was how i assessed it, nothing else meant & certainly nothing personal against you.

I understood your feelings on the subject and if, like yourself, i had lost relatives in conentration camps am sure the 'darkness' would not leave me. I may well have seen incongruity as you did.

No, Robinson, the last sentence was, most emphatically, not referring to you!

[Robbie]

Oh good, sorry if I seemed a bit too sensitive.
Just ignore 'em!