Life after death

[Maeght]

Wait a cotton picking minute Torridon. Are you denying the conservation of energy here?

Why do you think that?

[Sriram]

Death occurs because metabolic processes cease, not because energy, or prana, has left it, implying the prana still exists but is somewhere else now.  This would be like claiming that when a fire goes out, it is not because it has run out of fuel, but rather because the flames have left it and gone somewhere else. It is flawed conception.  Are there any observations of inanimate matter becoming alive because prana has entered it ?

That metabolic processes stop...we know. But why?

A machine stops not because the processes suddenly stop for no reason at all. It stops only because the power is switched off.

Its the same with life. Prana leaves and the body dies. Until it leaves even if the person is very ill, he will not die.

[Stranger]

That metabolic processes stop...we know. But why?

There is no mystery here that you can use your woo to 'explain'. Things die because they lack something physical that they need (nutrients, light, a certain temperature range...).

[trippymonkey]

WHAT RUBBISH !!!
People who seem perfectly well - 'OOH he was SO well too' - suddenly drop down dead as if something that WAS there is NOT there !!!!

[Enki]

WHAT RUBBISH !!!
People who seem perfectly well - 'OOH he was SO well too' - suddenly drop down dead as if something that WAS there is NOT there !!!!

You mean like when a person has a heart attack and the something that was there is no longer there(I.E. oxygen)?

[wigginhall]

This is beginning to sound like vitalism, the idea that there is a 'spark of life', or elan vital, which is crucial to living things.  It was popular during the 19th century, and even figures such as Pasteur supported it, but it began to run out of steam, as scientists could find no evidence for it.   It also began to be mocked, as notion such as 'aquosity' were suggested to explain fluids, and 'elan locomotif', to explain motion. 

You can still find it in New Age treatments and philosophies, which recommend toning up the vital spark by paying loads of dosh, while somebody waves their hands over you, plus VAT.

[trippymonkey]

You mean like when a person has a heart attack and the something that was there is no longer there(I.E. oxygen)?

Moderator: Content Removed Oxygen is STILL there but something has left that person !!! THEREFORE DEATH !?!?!?!

[Stranger]

That metabolic processes stop...we know. But why?

A machine stops not because the processes suddenly stop for no reason at all. It stops only because the power is switched off.

Its the same with life. Prana leaves and the body dies. Until it leaves even if the person is very ill, he will not die.

There is no mystery here that you can use your woo to 'explain'. Things die because they lack something physical that they need (nutrients, light, a certain temperature range...).

WHAT RUBBISH !!!
People who seem perfectly well - 'OOH he was SO well too' - suddenly drop down dead as if something that WAS there is NOT there !!!!

I did miss out malfunction, which is another reason why both machines and living things stop working.

Humans are huge collections of trillions of cells (all of which are individually alive). If some critical part malfunctions, then most of the cells will die because the systems that keep them supplied with the things they need (like oxygen) are no longer working.

There is still no mystery for Sriram's woo to 'solve'...

[Enki]

I did miss out malfunction, which is another reason why both machines and living things stop working.

Humans are huge collections of trillions of cells (all of which are individually alive). If some critical part malfunctions, then most of the cells will die because the systems that keep them supplied with the things they need (like oxygen) are no longer working.

There is still no mystery for Sriram's woo to 'solve'...

Exactly.

[Walter]

This is beginning to sound like vitalism, the idea that there is a 'spark of life', or elan vital, which is crucial to living things.  It was popular during the 19th century, and even figures such as Pasteur supported it, but it began to run out of steam, as scientists could find no evidence for it.   It also began to be mocked, as notion such as 'aquosity' were suggested to explain fluids, and 'elan locomotif', to explain motion. 

You can still find it in New Age treatments and philosophies, which recommend toning up the vital spark by paying loads of dosh, while somebody waves their hands over you, plus VAT.

have you heard of ''salt cave'' therapy. well worth a trip to Germany