Full Cover Up ?!?!!?!

[trippymonkey]

Been a long while since I've had a rant eh??? HA HA BUT...
There's been quite an increase in burkha clad women in my area of north east Lancs recently. One PRESUMES they're women, anyway ?
I HAVE read several versions of The Quran & The Hadiths by their 'prophet' Mohammed & not found anything as totalitarian as complete cover-up!!! Hair covering, most certainly.

Is this an 'invention' of frightened Muslim men who feel they can't control their servants-women or is there a simpler answer?
Is there some medical reason such as being on a period?

Nick

[Aruntraveller]

To answer your question I have no idea.

But I have to ask, has NE Lancs also seen an increase in the use of exclamation marks and question marks?!?!?!?!

[trippymonkey]

Very useful.

[Aruntraveller]

Very useful.

I thought so.

I'm not sure what anyone on this board can add to your anecdotal tale of burkha clad women.

[jeremyp]

Is this an 'invention' of frightened Muslim men who feel they can't control their servants-women or is there a simpler answer?

That already seems pretty simple.

[Harrowby Hall]

Is this an 'invention' of frightened Muslim men who feel they can't control their servants-women or is there a simpler answer?

I recall a tv programme recently in which it was stated that in classical Greece it was the custom for women to be completely covered (it may have been just in Athens). My guess is that this was possible quite a common practice in a number of cultures and that it is tribal rather religious in Islamic societies.

[Nearly Sane]

I recall a tv programme recently in which it was stated that in classical Greece it was the custom for women to be completely covered (it may have been just in Athens). My guess is that this was possible quite a common practice in a number of cultures and that it is tribal rather religious in Islamic societies.

I'm not aware of any use of full face veils in Athens in classical period. Possibly in some of the Greek settlements bordering  Persia?

[Harrowby Hall]

I'm not aware of any use of full face veils in Athens in classical period. Possibly in some of the Greek settlements bordering  Persia?

I have just been looking at   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Classical_Athens

It certainly suggests that some women lived secluded from men.

[Nearly Sane]

I have just been looking at   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Classical_Athens

It certainly suggests that some women lived secluded from men.

Seclusion doesn't mean that they wore a full veil. It's a different question though in some ways related

[jeremyp]

So what are we saying here? Because women in ancient Athens were treated fairly abysmally, it’s OK for Muslims to do the same now?

[Harrowby Hall]

That's not what I am saying. No one is suggesting that it's "OK" - where do you get that from?

I was merely attempting to provide an answer to Trippy's question in the opening post. That there was an established tradition of wrapping women up that went back at least as far as ancient Athens and that this found its way into Islamist practice.

[trippymonkey]

Please all here DO remember I was asking about TOTAL BLACK cover-ups many women wear that makes them look like a binbag.
And why cover the face too & so often?