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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2020, 04:19:12 PM »
This, of course, does not change the fact that #12 was a derail!

End of - as this particular conversation, if continued, would also be a derail!
Well let's give it an afterlife shall we, It was not a derail.

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2020, 04:20:08 PM »

 It's an analogy. Not a very good one imo but if Vlad thinks'whereabouts' is a question that somehow does not apply, it does at least raise the idea that not everything that we talk about has a physical whereabouts.


In view of the fact that no-one has ever returned or visited from the afterlife, except the obvious bone of contention on this Forum, we have no way of knowing the nature or location of the afterlife.

Pagans refer to it as the Summerlands, a place where the essence of the consciousness of the deceased will rest and review the past life and prepare for rebirth. (Pagans, or at least the ones that I know of, believe in the cycle of life, Birth, Life, Death and Re-birth via the Cauldron of Ceridwen) but this is outside the scope of this thread.

I did not intend this to be a huge philosophical argument about its existence just what people would do in it if it exists.

 
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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2020, 04:21:11 PM »
It's an analogy. Not a very good one imo but if Vlad thinks'whereabouts' is a question that somehow does not apply, it does at least raise the idea that not everything that we talk about has a physical whereabouts.
Got there in the end. 

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2020, 04:22:58 PM »
Death and Re-birth via the Cauldron of Ceridwen) .
The what?

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2020, 04:24:52 PM »

Well let's give it an afterlife shall we, It was not a derail.


If you thought it would screw up a thread you would keep arguing that black is white!

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2020, 04:26:18 PM »

The what?


Do your own research - stop expecting others to do it all for you!
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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2020, 04:26:52 PM »
In view of the fact that no-one has ever returned or visited from the afterlife, except the obvious bone of contention on this Forum, we have no way of knowing the nature or location of the afterlife.

Pagans refer to it as the Summerlands, a place where the essence of the consciousness of the deceased will rest and review the past life and prepare for rebirth. (Pagans, or at least the ones that I know of, believe in the cycle of life, Birth, Life, Death and Re-birth via the Cauldron of Ceridwen) but this is outside the scope of this thread.

I did not intend this to be a huge philosophical argument about its existence just what people would do in it if it exists.

 
The question though that Vlad was responding to wasn't about its existence but its 'whereabouts'. And neither his response nor my response to him is about its existence. It's precisely about what is it like, which is the question in the thread title.

Answering that then has an impact on what anyone would do since it would determine what anyone could do. If Vlad's concept of the afterlife has no whereabouts then Steve's post about having dinner with famous people seems unlikely.

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2020, 04:28:42 PM »
Got there in the end.
You still have to illustrate whether it makes any sense to consider an afterlife as anything analogous to maths.

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2020, 04:34:59 PM »

 The question though that Vlad was responding to wasn't about its existence but its 'whereabouts'. And neither his response nor my response to him is about its existence. It's precisely about what is it like, which is the question in the thread title.

Answering that then has an impact on what anyone would do since it would determine what anyone could do. If Vlad's concept of the afterlife has no whereabouts then Steve's post about having dinner with famous people seems unlikely.


What does the word "Summerlands" conjure up for you NS?

Rolling hills, grass, blue sky, forest, whatever you see as peaceful and idyllic and no bloody argumentative idiots telling you that you followed the wrong religion and should be down in the bloody firepits!

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2020, 04:38:27 PM »
What does the word "Summerlands" conjure up for you NS?

Rolling hills, grass, blue sky, forest, whatever you see as peaceful and idyllic and no bloody argumentative idiots telling you that you followed the wrong religion and should be down in the bloody firepits!

See you in a week! I'm back next Saturday at about 2130.




 

But your idea of the afterlife is not what others believe so why expect them to accept your beliefs. Summerlands conjures up nothing for me.

Have a good break!
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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2020, 04:44:33 PM »
You still have to illustrate whether it makes any sense to consider an afterlife as anything analogous to maths.
I was really thinking Susan Doris's remark about spirit and the whereabouts of the spiritual...which I grant could include the afterlife.

I was trying to point out that not everything which might possess a realism and truth of it's own has a location and offered mathematics as an example.

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2020, 05:23:05 PM »
I was really thinking Susan Doris's remark about spirit and the whereabouts of the spiritual...which I grant could include the afterlife.

I was trying to point out that not everything which might possess a realism and truth of it's own has a location and offered mathematics as an example.
Well it was Susan Doris replying to SweetPea who raised  it and wasn't talking about 'the spiritual' but 'our spiritual form'. So you appear to have misread the posts.

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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2020, 07:17:37 PM »
Pedant!
And proud of it. One of my hobbies is pissing people off on social media by being pedantic.
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Re: The Afterlife - what is it like?
« Reply #38 on: July 12, 2020, 08:23:32 AM »
And proud of it. One of my hobbies is pissing people off on social media by being pedantic.

How nice! ::)
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