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Owlswing

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Gods' origin(s)?
« on: February 06, 2021, 12:41:19 AM »

OK, so there are, probably, possibly, dozens, if not more, gods represented by God knows how many religions and religious off-shoots, but where did the idea, the concept, of "GOD" as an all-powerful, celestial, being originate?

Where did the idea come from?

Why did it come into existence?

Geographically where did it come from?

When did it first appear?

Did he start out as a target for the blame for everything negative in the world?

Why 'he' and not 'she' as the gender that survived?

YES! All the above are questions asked as serious questions and not a piss-take - I have both male and female deities in my pantheon and it is the female that takes seniority there. 

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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2021, 05:03:56 AM »
Fear and uncertainties are the main reasons for gods to come into existence. Nature and its vagaries are probably the first cause of gods to be conceived.

Secondly, 'implicit pattern learning' is another reason for people to unconsciously recognize hidden patterns in their lives that they attribute to a God or gods.

Then we have the need to explain the universe and its complexities.

Finally, once we realize that the inner hidden part of our consciousness has a part to play in our lives and possibly also in the external world...we start wondering about our own Self and its true nature. 

From an external God, we move to an inner God and finally to our own innermost Self (highest level of consciousness).....which could probably be the real God.




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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2021, 07:16:14 AM »

Fear and uncertainties are the main reasons for gods to come into existence. Nature and its vagaries are probably the first cause of gods to be conceived.


Why? and who, precisely, decided that?

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Secondly, 'implicit pattern learning' is another reason for people to unconsciously recognize hidden patterns in their lives that they attribute to a God or gods.



Which means what precisely?

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Then we have the need to explain the universe and its complexities.


At what point in "man's" development did this need appear? Before or after the arrival of the concept of God? Just when did the Universe's complexities become part of man's awareness?

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Finally, once we realize that the inner hidden part of our consciousness has a part to play in our lives and possibly also in the external world...we start wondering about our own Self and its true nature.


If it is hidden, how do we know what it does?

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From an external God, we move to an inner God and finally to our own innermost Self (highest level of consciousness).....which could probably be the real God.


Fine!

But where did the term "God" originate?

Why "God" and not "Boss" - for instance? Or any one of probably dozens-plus of terms in the myriad of languages that now exist?
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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2021, 10:26:22 AM »


But where did the term "God" originate?


From memory (and that's not so reliable these days)I think it comes from a Germanic expression meaning 'that which is invoked', which means that you could make a god out of many representations of your desires.  An example would be the God Hap where the result of invocation would be hap-piness and lack of invocation would result in a mis-hap.  It probably makes it easier to invoke if the representation is given a form like an animal or a human and even easier if there is one God representing all desires and fears rather than many gods representing many different desires and fears.

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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2021, 10:51:17 AM »

From memory (and that's not so reliable these days)I think it comes from a Germanic expression meaning 'that which is invoked', which means that you could make a god out of many representations of your desires.  An example would be the God Hap where the result of the invocation would be hap-piness and lack of invocation would result in a mis-hap.  It probably makes it easier to invoke if the representation is given a form like an animal or a human and even easier if there is one God representing all desires and fears rather than many gods representing many different desires and fears.


But surely the term "God" pre-dates the German and Germanic languages by some considerable time?

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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2021, 11:33:34 AM »
If the god of the bible exists, it must be an evil psycho.
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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2021, 11:48:46 AM »
I think that gods were created in those far off days as it appeared to be the only way of explaining the origins of the universe. Nowadays we have scientific theories, which appear to dismiss the idea of the need for a god or gods. In the future it is possible there will be verifiable evidence, which proves once and for all exactly how the universe originated.
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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2021, 02:26:45 PM »
But surely the term "God" pre-dates the German and Germanic languages by some considerable time?

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This article might answer your question..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God

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Re: Gods' origin(s)?
« Reply #8 on: February 06, 2021, 07:30:57 PM »

This article might answer your question..... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God


Thanks - missed this one!

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