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Aruntraveller

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Good Chaps, the constitution & complacency
« on: August 23, 2021, 10:24:15 AM »
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Good Chaps, the constitution & complacency
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2021, 01:46:47 PM »
An article by Gavin Esler. Well worth a read:

https://bylinetimes.com/2021/08/03/the-death-of-the-last-good-chap/?
He's right of course, the trouble is Cameron and Johnson are full on Bullingdon. They got awaywith it.
Unfortunately the only way to stop these crimes is when the the GBP have felt they have been fucked and buggered enough by these posh boys, then of course, must come severe sentences appropriate for at least for the crime of huge numbers dead from covid compared with other countries.

An international court for crimes against humanity would be fitting.

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Re: Good Chaps, the constitution & complacency
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2021, 02:16:13 PM »
I'm not sure the charge for Covid could be made to stick given the number of variables involved and also given that though we are on the high side of deaths per 1,000,000 (UK 1928) we aren't that much out in front when compared to countries like Spain (1777) and Portugal (1736) and indeed, Italy (2133) and the USA (1936) are ahead of us.*

Don't get me wrong I think their actions were wrong particularly at the start of the pandemic but the vaccination programme has been very successful and it is important to remember that we aren't actually over this yet. We are still very much in the middle of the pandemic. New Zealand which was held up as an example of good management of the crisis (by me and others) is now increasingly worried about the Delta variant and their low vaccination rate. No country has got this right all of the time.

I think it would be wrong to concentrate on their handling of the Covid crisis as a means to ousting them. As I said earlier too many variables. To get rid of them concentrate on the corruption, the lies and the anti-democratic stance that permeates every level of this government.

*All figures taken from here:  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Good Chaps, the constitution & complacency
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2021, 02:34:38 PM »
I'm not sure the charge for Covid could be made to stick given the number of variables involved and also given that though we are on the high side of deaths per 1,000,000 (UK 1928) we aren't that much out in front when compared to countries like Spain (1777) and Portugal (1736) and indeed, Italy (2133) and the USA (1936) are ahead of us.*

Don't get me wrong I think their actions were wrong particularly at the start of the pandemic but the vaccination programme has been very successful and it is important to remember that we aren't actually over this yet. We are still very much in the middle of the pandemic. New Zealand which was held up as an example of good management of the crisis (by me and others) is now increasingly worried about the Delta variant and their low vaccination rate. No country has got this right all of the time.

I think it would be wrong to concentrate on their handling of the Covid crisis as a means to ousting them. As I said earlier too many variables. To get rid of them concentrate on the corruption, the lies and the anti-democratic stance that permeates every level of this government.

*All figures taken from here:  https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Two answers to this Trent. Maybe the leaders of the countries you mention also deserve to be in the Dock.
Secondly we know the culpability of Johnson and his government. Ignorance of foreign success or just doing what a country is supposed to do by a population should provide no defence for Johnson and his government at all.

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Re: Good Chaps, the constitution & complacency
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2021, 04:44:06 PM »
He's right of course, the trouble is Cameron and Johnson are full on Bullingdon. They got awaywith it.
Unfortunately the only way to stop these crimes is when the the GBP have felt they have been fucked and buggered enough by these posh boys, then of course, must come severe sentences appropriate for at least for the crime of huge numbers dead from covid compared with other countries.

An international court for crimes against humanity would be fitting.

Explain how given the definition you could construct a case

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimes_against_humanity