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Evolution can be really fast
« on: March 23, 2022, 07:32:50 AM »
Hi everyone,

Here is an article about evolution in fruit flies.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/03/evolution-can-occur-really-really-rapidly/#:~:text=When%20we%20think%20of%20evolution,in%20response%20to%20seasonal%20changes.

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When we think of evolution, we often think of slow, gradual changes made over millions of years. However, new research suggests that the process could be happening quite quickly, driving major changes over the course of a single year in response to seasonal changes.

Over the four months, the researchers saw changes in the frequency of some variants across 60 percent of the flies' genomes. That's a particularly large change that Rudman called a "staggering number." Only a small fraction of this represents variants that were selected for by the changing conditions as summer shifted to fall, however. As those variants were selected for, they pulled along nearby areas of the chromosome, altering the frequency of neighboring variants as well.

The researchers could tell the changes were adaptive rather than just genetic drift. They could tell because the changes appeared in the populations of most enclosures rather than just one or two.

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Cheers.

Sriram

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2022, 11:21:31 AM »
You have to remember that fruit flies have a very short life cycle - just a few days.
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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2022, 05:34:00 PM »
Hi everyone,

Here is an article about evolution in fruit flies.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/03/evolution-can-occur-really-really-rapidly/#:~:text=When%20we%20think%20of%20evolution,in%20response%20to%20seasonal%20changes.

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When we think of evolution, we often think of slow, gradual changes made over millions of years. However, new research suggests that the process could be happening quite quickly, driving major changes over the course of a single year in response to seasonal changes.

Over the four months, the researchers saw changes in the frequency of some variants across 60 percent of the flies' genomes. That's a particularly large change that Rudman called a "staggering number." Only a small fraction of this represents variants that were selected for by the changing conditions as summer shifted to fall, however. As those variants were selected for, they pulled along nearby areas of the chromosome, altering the frequency of neighboring variants as well.

The researchers could tell the changes were adaptive rather than just genetic drift. They could tell because the changes appeared in the populations of most enclosures rather than just one or two.

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Cheers.

Sriram
Yup - evolution can work really, really quick. It depends on:

A) How quick the lifecycle of the organism is
B) How major the environmental challenge is and
C) How beneficial the particular genetic trait is.

So scientist do this kind of stuff all the time as a standard method in biology - often with bacteria and antibiotic resistance.

So it works like this - you want to grow up genetic material which you will use in mammalian cells. You incorporate the genetic material into bacteria, but alongside it you add an antibiotic resistance. To start with a tiny proportion of the bacteria successfully take up the genetic material (and the antibiotic resistance) - so a few have the 'mutation' so to speak. Challenge them with an antibiotic and all the bacteria without the resistance die - you are left in a day or two with an entire population of bacteria with the 'mutation'.

So you are correct - evolution can be very quick where the lifecycle of the organism is short and a mutation conveys overwhelming advantage in response to a very major environmental challenge.

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 05:08:04 AM »


The most important point here....IMO....is

"The researchers could tell the changes were adaptive rather than just genetic drift."

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 09:10:18 AM »

The most important point here....IMO....is

"The researchers could tell the changes were adaptive rather than just genetic drift."

https://www.biologyonline.com/dictionary/adaptive-evolution

'Two major mechanisms that drive evolution are natural selection and genetic drift. In natural selection, individuals with advantageous traits are able to reproduce successfully. These traits are passed down to the next generations. This type of evolution wherein the changes are driven by natural selection is called adaptive evolution.'

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2022, 09:12:00 AM »

The most important point here....IMO....is

"The researchers could tell the changes were adaptive rather than just genetic drift."
I'd have to read the actual paper rather than the pop-science article, but I suspect you are mis-reading this comment (or indeed the journalist is). I doubt it means that the genome of an individual fly is adapting to the new environment (unless that is already an existing epigenetic switch controlled by another part of the genome). I think they are looking at a population level (indeed that is stated) - so over time pre-existing genomic traits (or a new trait that arises by random mutation) in a small number of flies that confers an advantage as the environment changes becomes selected for (as it confers evolutionary advantage) such that over several lifecycle generations more and more flies that inherit that trait survive and breed so it becomes dominant.
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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2022, 09:12:50 AM »
https://www.biologyonline.com/dictionary/adaptive-evolution

'Two major mechanisms that drive evolution are natural selection and genetic drift. In natural selection, individuals with advantageous traits are able to reproduce successfully. These traits are passed down to the next generations. This type of evolution wherein the changes are driven by natural selection is called adaptive evolution.'
Thanks Maeght - you beat me to it.

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2022, 06:40:34 PM »
Thanks Maeght - you beat me to it.

Had to be done :)

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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2022, 12:19:07 PM »
It's also worth stating that mutations that don't immediately convey an advantage can also be passed on with successive mutaions eventually building something that does (in a population). This can be how complex things can be built over time.
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Re: Evolution can be really fast
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2022, 03:35:19 PM »
It's also worth stating that mutations that don't immediately convey an advantage can also be passed on with successive mutaions eventually building something that does (in a population). This can be how complex things can be built over time.
True - and also mutations may not be revealed to be beneficial until a particular environmental challenge materialises.