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[BashfulAnthony]

It's a matter of Floo's opinion and the opinion of innumerable people who have had a religious upbringing they consider to have been abusive.

It's still a hang-up, and it's still unhealthy.

[Shaker]

It's a matter of Floo's opinion and the opinion of innumerable people who have had a religious upbringing they consider to have been abusive.

It's still a hang-up, and it's still unhealthy.

That's religion for you 

[BashfulAnthony]

It's a matter of Floo's opinion and the opinion of innumerable people who have had a religious upbringing they consider to have been abusive.

It's still a hang-up, and it's still unhealthy.

That's religion for you 

No,  that's anti-religion for you.

[Shaker]

No it isn't. I doubt very much indeed if Floo would hold the opinions on religion she does if she hadn't had the upbringing she had. Correct?

[BashfulAnthony]

No it isn't. I doubt very much indeed if Floo would hold the opinions on religion she does if she hadn't had the upbringing she had. Correct?

Correct or not, who knows?  I shouldn't think even she could say.   Floo is a kind soul who seems to be caught in this negative anti-religion syndrome, and it is unhealthy.

[Shaker]

Correct or not, who knows? I shouldn't think even she could say.

Why ever not?

[BashfulAnthony]

Correct or not, who knows? I shouldn't think even she could say.

Why ever not?

If she could account for her obsession, or even acknowledge it, then she might be able to lift herself out of this unhealthy state.

[Shaker]

I thought your issue was that she has/does account for it, only too much?

And needless to say, your judgement of "unhealthiness" stems purely from the fact that she doesn't like something you do.

[Shaker]

Additionally, since we were talking about obsession, I've just had a look at some stats and discovered that in a couple of months shy of four years - that's four years - I've made 2700 or so posts (1.969 per day) whereas in just over a year you're already up to 3200+ (7.793 per day).

Interesting

[BashfulAnthony]

Additionally, since we were talking about obsession, I've just had a look at some stats and discovered that in a few months shy of four years - that's four years - I've made 2700 or so posts wheres in just over a year you're already up to 3200+

Interesting

Not interesting: incorrect.

I was one of the first to join this forum when it began, shortly after the closure of the BBC religion forum  -  four years ago . Since then I have had two long absences, one for ill-health, one simply from boredom.  My total posts encompasses my entire total over those years, not just one year.  So the two compare, especially as you have spent time pontificating on your own forum.

If your figure was correct it would mean I've posted some twenty times a day, every day for six months  -  I've had six   months of this last year away from the forum.  Not even with my stamina could I endure that!

[Sassy]

Never in my life have I met a Christian "drooling' about hell. They must all be living in Wales.

Or W H ALES as the case may be. LOL!

[Shaker]

So you're saying that the stats are wrong, is that it? That it says that you joined in March 2014, but your 3200+ posts actually go back four years?

Riiiiiiiight 

[Sassy]

Floo has a real hang-up about Christianity in particular.

Not without good reason.

What Good Reason about Christ can she have a hang up about Christianity? Her own family does NOT DEFINE Christianity. Perhaps like Floo they could not submit themselves to God and be humble and loving.

[BashfulAnthony]

So you're saying that the stats are wrong, is that it?

I'm saying that the stats for me cover four years, not one.  I never left the forum, I merely stopped posting for intervals, but of course my membership and details remained.

[Sassy]

No it isn't. I doubt very much indeed if Floo would hold the opinions on religion she does if she hadn't had the upbringing she had. Correct?

Being rebellious causes problems. Floo did not exactly help herself did she? Right and wrong on both sides but never Christ or God. They did nothing her parents and herself did.

[Shaker]

Right and wrong on both sides but never Christ or God. They did nothing

There's a reason for that

[Alien]

 . . . as well as the heathen like myself?

Have a care in your use of the term heathen to define yourself.

In modern parlence 'heathen' is a term used to define Pagans - or neo-Pagans - who follow the Norse or Germanic (Asatru) pre-christiqn deities and they would, almost certainly, not take kindly to your use of the term to describe your particularly virulent and unpleasant form of atheism.

Too bad!

OED definition of "heathen":

chiefly derogatory

1 A person who does not belong to a widely held religion (especially one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim) as regarded by those who do:
my brother and I were raised, as my grandma puts it, as heathens
(as plural noun the heathen) a chance of salvation for the heathen

1.1 A follower of a polytheistic religion; a pagan.

1.2 informal A person regarded as lacking culture or moral principles:
eat your chips, you little heathen!

[Owlswing]

Floo has a real hang-up about Christianity in particular.

Not without good reason.

What Good Reason about Christ can she have a hang up about Christianity? Her own family does NOT DEFINE Christianity. Perhaps like Floo they could not submit themselves to God and be humble and loving.

Humble - you! You have to be joking!

[Owlswing]

 . . . as well as the heathen like myself?

Have a care in your use of the term heathen to define yourself.

In modern parlence 'heathen' is a term used to define Pagans - or neo-Pagans - who follow the Norse or Germanic (Asatru) pre-christiqn deities and they would, almost certainly, not take kindly to your use of the term to describe your particularly virulent and unpleasant form of atheism.

Too bad!

OED definition of "heathen":

chiefly derogatory

1 A person who does not belong to a widely held religion (especially one who is not a Christian, Jew, or Muslim) as regarded by those who do:
my brother and I were raised, as my grandma puts it, as heathens
(as plural noun the heathen) a chance of salvation for the heathen

1.1 A follower of a polytheistic religion; a pagan.

1.2 informal A person regarded as lacking culture or moral principles:
eat your chips, you little heathen!

1.1 just as I said, in a slightly different wording.

And I am not a heathen, I am a Pagan and follow Celtic deities. Chips? No thanks, I just had chicken and rice.

Get back in your rocket and return to whence you came.

[floo]

No it isn't. I doubt very much indeed if Floo would hold the opinions on religion she does if she hadn't had the upbringing she had. Correct?

Being rebellious causes problems. Floo did not exactly help herself did she? Right and wrong on both sides but never Christ or God. They did nothing her parents and herself did.

The deity is evil, I would be evil too if I kowtowed to it, if I believed it to exist. As for Jesus, he was just another guy with a bit of charisma. I don't bow down to anyone, or worship them! 

[Hope]

The deity is evil, I would be evil too if I kowtowed to it, if I believed it to exist. As for Jesus, he was just another guy with a bit of charisma. I don't bow down to anyone, or worship them!

Again, the word 'evil', floo.  You have been asked to expalin what you mean by it several times, but have never provided an answer.  As for kowtowing or bowing down to anyone - as a Christian, nor do I - so that's at least two of us.

[jakswan]

The deity is evil, I would be evil too if I kowtowed to it, if I believed it to exist. As for Jesus, he was just another guy with a bit of charisma. I don't bow down to anyone, or worship them!

Again, the word 'evil', floo.  You have been asked to expalin what you mean by it several times, but have never provided an answer.  As for kowtowing or bowing down to anyone - as a Christian, nor do I - so that's at least two of us.

Would you agree Hope that a supporter of Islamic States position on burning people alive is evil?

Some Christians are supporters of burning people forever.

[Hope]

Would you agree Hope that a supporter of Islamic States position on burning people alive is evil?

That doesn't explain the meaning of the word in Floo's mind, jakswan.  That is why I asked her for her explanation.

Some Christians are supporters of burning people forever.

Can't say that I know any, nor that there is any Scriptural evidence to suggest that such a belief is a Christian belief.  I accept that the Church has been guilty of burning people in the past, but then that was a one-off event each time!!   

[Shaker]

Can't say that I know any, nor that there is any Scriptural evidence to suggest that such a belief is a Christian belief.  I accept that the Church has been guilty of burning people in the past, but then that was a one-off event each time!!   

Just like murdering six millions Jews was a one-off event each time ... six million times 

Only somebody with their moral equipment addled by religious belief could argue in such a flippant vein.

[jakswan]

Would you agree Hope that a supporter of Islamic States position on burning people alive is evil?

That doesn't explain the meaning of the word in Floo's mind, jakswan.  That is why I asked her for her explanation.

Some Christians are supporters of burning people forever.

Can't say that I know any, nor that there is any Scriptural evidence to suggest that such a belief is a Christian belief.  I accept that the Church has been guilty of burning people in the past, but then that was a one-off event each time!!   

2corrie and TW seem quite keen on the idea. You would have to ask Floo but evil would be any action that inflicts harm on sentient creatures.

How would you define it?