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« Reply #175 on: November 10, 2015, 04:41:53 PM »
Are you having a pity party Floo? Have a magic cookie!

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« Reply #176 on: November 10, 2015, 04:51:05 PM »
Rhi,
Google the definition of heathen.

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« Reply #177 on: November 10, 2015, 05:03:21 PM »
Rhi,
Google the definition of heathen.


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DON'T YOU DARE - he has almost certainly already done it and knows full well what the pagan definition of Heathen is!

He wants to take the piss, let him do by himself.
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« Reply #178 on: November 10, 2015, 05:22:08 PM »
Dearest friend Matty,
The pagan definition has nothing to do with what that word really means. So yes, google the definition of heathen, the pagans don't own the definition of that word. A heathen can be any unbeliever, so get over it.

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« Reply #179 on: November 10, 2015, 05:32:23 PM »
Dearest friend Matty,
The pagan definition has nothing to do with what that word really means.
Since when have you been the arbiter of what words "really" mean?
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So yes, google the definition of heathen, the pagans don't own the definition of that word. A heathen can be any unbeliever, so get over it.
Nobody owns any language; nevertheless, the word has a precise and a specific meaning within paganism just as schizophrenic does within psychiatry. It can't be helped - or stopped - if these words escape their confines and get out into broader language; it's a pity however that they becone bastardised in the process.
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« Reply #180 on: November 10, 2015, 06:23:45 PM »
I'm not and don't have to be Shaker. But if you want to take issue on the definition with Webster and Cambridge, go for it. (Snork) Best eat some meat before ya do. Get some strength back and all.

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« Reply #181 on: November 10, 2015, 06:26:05 PM »
I'm not and don't have to be Shaker. But if you want to take issue on the definition with Webster and Cambridge, go for it. (Snork) Best eat some meat before ya do. Get some strength back and all.
Dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive; they describe an is, not an ought.
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« Reply #182 on: November 10, 2015, 09:58:48 PM »

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« Reply #183 on: November 11, 2015, 03:31:11 AM »
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/heathen

I would only take notice of what Collins says on the subject if Collins were pagan - they are not, so I do not accept theiir rather narrow description and neither will any other pagan.

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« Reply #184 on: November 11, 2015, 07:36:06 AM »
If you were told from birth you would burn in hell if you didn't get 'saved' you might not be too thrilled about Christianity either! It is the unpleasant 'you must be 'saved' dogma', that disgusts me, when it is used in an abusive manner. As I have often said I don't have a problem with mainstream Christians who have a live and let live approach!
I am aware of your background, Floo - you've shared them with us here and elsewhere on a number of occasions.    Of the hundreds of Christians I know, I can only think of one person other than you who shares such an experience.  On the other hand, I know lots of people who were brought up in Christian families/non-religious families who have rejected/accepted Christianity in their teenage and adult years.

People are still being emotionally abused by this abusive dogma today. The Pentecostal churches spew it out!

Which Pentecostal Churches do you attend today?
None.. am I right? So why make statements about religious Pentecostal Churches in the UK,which you have no proof?
At best it is an opinion you cannot support with actual evidence because you do not attend any Pentecostal Churches ANYWHERE.

Why make up statements about the Pentecostal Church when you never go to any???????
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« Reply #185 on: November 11, 2015, 07:37:46 AM »
People are still being emotionally abused by this abusive dogma today. The Pentecostal churches spew it out!
I know people who were brought up in Pentecostalism, who have chosen to reject their upbringing - but none are as vitupertive as you.

Well maybe they should be. Subjecting children and the vulnerable to this evil emotional abuse should be illegal, imo! I will continue to rant about it as long as I live!

Why rant about something you have NO present day experience about? You don't go to Church so have no idea what is being taught in the present day Pentecostal Churches. Till you go, then you are basically telling untruths as no evidence.
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« Reply #186 on: November 11, 2015, 08:47:23 AM »
People are still being emotionally abused by this abusive dogma today. The Pentecostal churches spew it out!
I know people who were brought up in Pentecostalism, who have chosen to reject their upbringing - but none are as vitupertive as you.

Well maybe they should be. Subjecting children and the vulnerable to this evil emotional abuse should be illegal, imo! I will continue to rant about it as long as I live!

Why rant about something you have NO present day experience about? You don't go to Church so have no idea what is being taught in the present day Pentecostal Churches. Till you go, then you are basically telling untruths as no evidence.

So are you trying to tell me that the Elim Pentecostal movement no longer preaches that evil dogma, if you don't get 'saved' you go to hell? Because if you are I will tell you that is untrue. I might no longer attend the Pentecostal church of my youth but I know people who do and what is preached!  ::)

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« Reply #187 on: November 11, 2015, 11:04:29 AM »

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So are you trying to tell me that the Elim Pentecostal movement no longer preaches that evil dogma, if you don't get 'saved' you go to hell? Because if you are I will tell you that is untrue. I might no longer attend the Pentecostal church of my youth but I know people who do and what is preached!  ::)

Floo:

It is time for you to listen to what Jesus preached, Floo. He preached his message in his own unique style...by thought, action and deed....

What he says is that there are  mechanics that are at work in our own daily lives which we cannot see but are largely evil. We can follow his teaching, accurately, and besides taking control of our own destiny in a healthy, upbuilding way, we take control of our own righteous spirit which will, at the end of the day, either be retained in Hades else be resurrected to a new vessel via righteous laws and into righteous circumstances...The choice is ours but I'm afraid most are doing it all wrong.

Still it will all come together on Judgment Day. 

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« Reply #188 on: November 11, 2015, 11:15:12 AM »
My dearest fan matty,
I know what your problem is, it's your damned pointy hat. You so need to let it go. I betcha if you would stop wearing your pointed hat, you wouldn't fly off your handle every time you're buzzing the area.

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« Reply #189 on: November 11, 2015, 11:17:26 AM »

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So are you trying to tell me that the Elim Pentecostal movement no longer preaches that evil dogma, if you don't get 'saved' you go to hell? Because if you are I will tell you that is untrue. I might no longer attend the Pentecostal church of my youth but I know people who do and what is preached!  ::)

Floo:

It is time for you to listen to what Jesus preached, Floo. He preached his message in his own unique style...by thought, action and deed....

What he says is that there are  mechanics that are at work in our own daily lives which we cannot see but are largely evil. We can follow his teaching, accurately, and besides taking control of our own destiny in a healthy, upbuilding way, we take control of our own righteous spirit which will, at the end of the day, either be retained in Hades else be resurrected to a new vessel via righteous laws and into righteous circumstances...The choice is ours but I'm afraid most are doing it all wrong.

Still it will all come together on Judgment Day.

We have no idea if what Jesus is quoted as saying was anything to do with him. If it was, he said some sensible things and others with which I would take issue, but then he was only a mere human like the rest of us.

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« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2015, 11:24:06 AM »
My dearest fan matty,
I know what your problem is, it's your damned pointy hat. You so need to let it go. I betcha if you would stop wearing your pointed hat, you wouldn't fly off your handle every time you're buzzing the area.

No old timer, it is you that does not know what a magic cookie is.

https://youtu.be/0nWgsVT98Ss

I'm calling a final halt to this - You wouldn't know a humourous post if it hit you in the mouth!

You seem to think that you are the natural successor to Bob Hope or Tommy Cooper, you are not - you are about as funny as a broken leg or a serious case of haemorrhoids.

Keep trying and you will know when you have succeeded in posting something really funny when I answer you - until then . . . I would wish you "Fare Well" but I cannot, not with out laughing myself hoarse anyway.
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« Reply #191 on: November 11, 2015, 01:07:51 PM »

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My dearest fan matty,
I know what your problem is, it's your damned pointy hat. You so need to let it go. I betcha if you would stop wearing your pointed hat, you wouldn't fly off your handle every time you're buzzing the area.

No old timer, it is you that does not know what a magic cookie is.




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'm calling a final halt to this - You wouldn't know a humourous post if it hit you in the mouth!

You seem to think that you are the natural successor to Bob Hope or Tommy Cooper, you are not - you are about as funny as a broken leg or a serious case of haemorrhoids.

Keep trying and you will know when you have succeeded in posting something really funny when I answer you - until then . . . I would wish you "Fare Well" but I cannot, not with out laughing myself hoarse anyway.

Ignore that post, MC.  He has said he will ignore me at least twice, but he continues to make his churlish little comments.  Watch this space.    :)
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« Reply #192 on: November 11, 2015, 09:22:15 PM »
Yes I know BA. Dear Matty has promised me oodles of times that he would ignore me. He can't cause I believe he is my #1 fan. Perhaps he's got a man crush on me. (snork)

A monkey sitting on a rock knows comedy, Matty's consists of posting about how he gets his poop to really shine. Whatever.

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« Reply #193 on: November 11, 2015, 09:28:20 PM »
Yes I know BA. Dear Matty has promised me oodles of times that he would ignore me. He can't cause I believe he is my #1 fan. Perhaps he's got a man crush on me. (snork)

A monkey sitting on a rock knows comedy, Matty's consists of posting about how he gets his poop to really shine. Whatever.

Take care  -  he'll refuse to post to you, again, and again, and again...
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« Reply #194 on: November 16, 2015, 10:46:36 AM »
People are still being emotionally abused by this abusive dogma today. The Pentecostal churches spew it out!
I know people who were brought up in Pentecostalism, who have chosen to reject their upbringing - but none are as vitupertive as you.

Well maybe they should be. Subjecting children and the vulnerable to this evil emotional abuse should be illegal, imo! I will continue to rant about it as long as I live!

Why rant about something you have NO present day experience about? You don't go to Church so have no idea what is being taught in the present day Pentecostal Churches. Till you go, then you are basically telling untruths as no evidence.

So are you trying to tell me that the Elim Pentecostal movement no longer preaches that evil dogma, if you don't get 'saved' you go to hell? Because if you are I will tell you that is untrue. I might no longer attend the Pentecostal church of my youth but I know people who do and what is preached!  ::)

I am not telling you anything...

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NO present day experience about? You don't go to Church so have no idea what is being taught in the present day Pentecostal Churches.

You don't go so you don't know.

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I might no longer attend the Pentecostal church of my youth but I know people who do and what is preached!  ::)

Name of people and address of church. Might go and have a look. At least one of us would know the truth that way.
And the second one of us could and should stop making statements till they have witnessed it for themselves.
I personally do not know anyone who if a true church goer would agree and confirm your testimony of events.
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« Reply #195 on: November 16, 2015, 10:50:59 AM »

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My dearest fan matty,
I know what your problem is, it's your damned pointy hat. You so need to let it go. I betcha if you would stop wearing your pointed hat, you wouldn't fly off your handle every time you're buzzing the area.

No old timer, it is you that does not know what a magic cookie is.




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'm calling a final halt to this - You wouldn't know a humourous post if it hit you in the mouth!

You seem to think that you are the natural successor to Bob Hope or Tommy Cooper, you are not - you are about as funny as a broken leg or a serious case of haemorrhoids.

Keep trying and you will know when you have succeeded in posting something really funny when I answer you - until then . . . I would wish you "Fare Well" but I cannot, not with out laughing myself hoarse anyway.

Ignore that post, MC.  He has said he will ignore me at least twice, but he continues to make his churlish little comments.  Watch this space.    :)

You know Matthew cannot change his spots whatever name he calls himself.

He hates Christians....  ;D
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« Reply #196 on: November 16, 2015, 11:43:15 AM »

He hates Christians....  ;D

I  am going to take the view that you are blind and not stupid.

Blind as you cannot have read my posts; either that or stupid because you are commenting after ignoring them.

I have stated, on more than one occasion that I do NOT HATE CHRISTIANS! In capitals so that even you cannot miss it this time.

What I hate ABOUT Christians is their everlasting insistance that they are the followers of the one true deity and everyone else, belonging to any other religious path, or none, are, at best delusional, and at worst stupid, damned for all eterinity, degenerate, perverted etc etc etc.

Matthew, no longer my handle, but I cannot expect one of the terrible two to take notice of that, has always stated that, as far as he is concerned you are as entitled to your beliefs as anyone else as long as you allow him the same freedom.

I only criticise Christians when they do stupid things like referring to "the pointy hat", no self respecting witch wears a pointy hat, only Christians do that on Halloween.

Now, unless you are prepared to leave your unpleasant and unwarrented prejudices behind, don't talk about things that you know nothing of, stick to fundamentalist Chritianity and leave Paganism and witchcraft to those who know what they are talking about.

And YES I do know about Christianity as I was brought up in a Christian household until I was 15 (I've posted this before as well) - you might understand what you are talking about if you had been brought up in a Pagan household for the same period of time - you might well not be Christian now.
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« Reply #197 on: November 16, 2015, 11:55:03 AM »

He hates Christians....  ;D

I  am going to take the view that you are blind and not stupid.

Whereas with you both are a dead cert...


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Blind as you cannot have read my posts; either that or stupid because you are commenting after ignoring them.

I have stated, on more than one occasion that I do NOT HATE CHRISTIANS! In capitals so that even you cannot miss it this time.

Your posts as this one says differently...
EVIDENCE convicts you.
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What I hate ABOUT Christians is their everlasting insistance that they are the followers of the one true deity and everyone else, belonging to any other religious path, or none, are, at best delusional, and at worst stupid, damned for all eterinity, degenerate, perverted etc etc etc.
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What was that about this I didn't miss that either....What I hate ABOUT Christians

Do you want to phone a friend.. 50/50 or use a lifeline.. oops sorry not got any of those. Calm down and engage brain.

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Matthew, no longer my handle, but I cannot expect one of the terrible two to take notice of that, has always stated that, as far as he is concerned you are as entitled to your beliefs as anyone else as long as you allow him the same freedom.

I only criticise Christians when they do stupid things like referring to "the pointy hat", no self respecting witch wears a pointy hat, only Christians do that on Halloween.
Nah pointy hats are for Dunces are you sure witches don't have pointy hats?

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Now, unless you are prepared to leave your unpleasant and unwarrented prejudices behind, don't talk about things that you know nothing of, stick to fundamentalist Chritianity and leave Paganism and witchcraft to those who know what they are talking about.

Is that from the Matthew who says in capital letters:- that I do NOT HATE CHRISTIANS!
or the Matthew who says in capital letters:- What I hate ABOUT Christians
There is nothing unwarranted or prejudice about truths you as pagans decided to drop from the history of paganism and choose to ignore. If you don't like the truths at least stop blaming others for them. It is pact and parcel of the history of your beliefs.
Selective in your reasoning with Christianity and your own beliefs is never a good thing. Don't tell others they cannot show you up for what you do.
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And YES I do know about Christianity as I was brought up in a Christian household until I was 15 (I've posted this before as well) - you might understand what you are talking about if you had been brought up in a Pagan household for the same period of time - you might well not be Christian now.

You don't need to be raised in either household to know it's history. But I know Bullsh*t when I read it and denial when I witness it. You couldn't be more in denial if you were stood in the de nile in Egypt.
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« Reply #198 on: November 16, 2015, 01:44:14 PM »
Your b*tchy post Sass proves you dislike witches, so pot and kettle! ::)

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« Reply #199 on: November 16, 2015, 01:46:04 PM »
Your b*tchy post Sass proves you dislike witches, so pot and kettle! ::)

. . . and pagans!
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