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« Reply #150 on: October 01, 2015, 03:42:50 PM »
It wasn't horrible. It wasn't even noise. It was like the purr of a big cat.

(Seriously, it wasn't louder than a normal engine. Just very, very different).

For that kind of money I should bloody well hope so!
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« Reply #151 on: October 02, 2015, 09:13:31 AM »
Dear Rhiannon,

On the subject of beautiful noises, the sound of a diesel train as it leaves Queen St station, like the drone of bagpipes, primitive and beautiful. :)

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« Reply #152 on: October 02, 2015, 10:38:29 AM »
Dear Rhiannon,

On the subject of beautiful noises, the sound of a diesel train as it leaves Queen St station, like the drone of bagpipes, primitive and beautiful. :)

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My brothers and I, when younger and still living at home, would, on weekends, open the windows and play records (vinyl records) of the Pipes and Drums, usually the Massed Pipes and Drums, of the various Highland regiments and from the Tattoo's.

It was some years later that our mother admitted that she hated the sound of the pipes and, when we played the music (a term, when applied to the pipes, she hotly disputed) she had taught herself to 'tune out' the pipes and listen to the drumming only.

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« Reply #153 on: October 02, 2015, 10:54:04 AM »
I have confess, and it may well be treason for a Scot to admit this, but I cannot stand the unmusical racket made by bagpipes. 

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« Reply #154 on: October 02, 2015, 10:58:51 AM »
I have confess, and it may well be treason for a Scot to admit this, but I cannot stand the unmusical racket made by bagpipes.

That's not treason, it's heresy!
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« Reply #155 on: October 02, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »
Dear Rhiannon,

On the subject of beautiful noises, the sound of a diesel train as it leaves Queen St station, like the drone of bagpipes, primitive and beautiful. :)

Gonnagle.

I agree the noise the bagpipes make is a primitive drone! ;D





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« Reply #156 on: October 02, 2015, 11:22:25 AM »
I have confess, and it may well be treason for a Scot to admit this, but I cannot stand the unmusical racket made by bagpipes.


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No 'maybe's about it.
treason is wot it is.Glad we've sorted that out.
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« Reply #157 on: October 02, 2015, 01:59:28 PM »
That wasn't my intention, though it would make a difference to listening to your negative comments about Christianity, and having it all your own way. Of course, it's just possible that you are afraid to say what you believe, because your beliefs are so open to negative interpretation.  You can't have much confidence in what you believe, then.
Does none of that apply to Christianity? An awful lot of Christians seem to be incredibly hypersensitive even to the very mildest criticism of their beliefs. If according to you sensitivity to criticism entails shakiness of belief, well ...

P.S. As regards "having it all your own way" ... Christians have had that for a strikingly long time, no?


Not hypersensitive at all.. May be just sick of hearing the same old bull that Atheists reproduce time after time. Groundhog day got nothing on the atheist total recall going on day after day, after day, after day... whoops getting into the atheist way there. ;)

What is incredibly boring is the lack of bringing anything that really damages Christianity in any way. Don't you get tired of having nothing positive or helpful to bring to these threads..

Remember Shaker...what you sow is what you get... :D
Do you fancy making fish butties with the loaves and five fishes...Oh that's right atheists cannot make it stretch that far. So perhaps another reason Christ is right and you are wrong... ;D Don't take it to heart it is just a forum after all.
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« Reply #158 on: October 02, 2015, 02:00:32 PM »
Im happy to discuss my pagan beliefs. If someone takes the piss I'll just go and find some grown-ups to talk to.
Well that could be difficult unless you are claiming only pagans grown up. I am sure you are not after all they believe in things equal to fairy stories... :D ;)
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« Reply #159 on: October 02, 2015, 02:01:44 PM »
Yeah, you probably won't get far talking to pagans if you think fairies and magic are 'silly'.

So no grown ups there then.
Well, we will have to let you children carry on pretending the things you know are not real are there....Good Luck
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« Reply #160 on: October 02, 2015, 02:04:03 PM »
It seems to me your idea of "mild" criticism is very odd.

Not to me.
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In the main, the criticism on here is far from mild; and is often extremely offensive, and puerile.
This to me indicates that you don't like your beliefs being challenged or criticised in any way whatever, and see any such challenge or criticism as "offensive." Even if this were true, so what? Offence never killed anybody. In the modern world "offence" is one of those buzz-words which appears to be designed to close down debate and to shut up criticism. There is such a thing as offence, no question, but so what? Being offended has never equalled being right.

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Why spend so much time being negatively offensive, in the way you and others do on here?  Why not engage in serious debate, without the need for constant vitriol and put-downs?  Not a very intelligent way to approach things.

Look you have to cut Shaker some slack. He use to be pleasant at one time. Then he took a break and he is in pain a lot of the time. He doesn't say it, but it is true. I suppose if his health picked up then so would his mood. Pray for your enemy who knows when he feels better the OLD Shaker may return.

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« Reply #161 on: October 02, 2015, 02:06:31 PM »
Yeah, you probably won't get far talking to pagans if you think fairies and magic are 'silly'.

Seconded - I consider "think[ing] fairies and magic are 'silly'." is a form of "taking the piss".
In all honesty talking to pagans about things like fairies and magic would be silly. It serves absolutely no positive purpose for anyone.

I guess there is taking the piss and talking piss. Either way it serves no logical purpose and is of no earthly use to man or beast.... :D
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« Reply #162 on: October 02, 2015, 02:21:48 PM »
That wasn't my intention, though it would make a difference to listening to your negative comments about Christianity, and having it all your own way. Of course, it's just possible that you are afraid to say what you believe, because your beliefs are so open to negative interpretation.  You can't have much confidence in what you believe, then.
Does none of that apply to Christianity? An awful lot of Christians seem to be incredibly hypersensitive even to the very mildest criticism of their beliefs. If according to you sensitivity to criticism entails shakiness of belief, well ...

P.S. As regards "having it all your own way" ... Christians have had that for a strikingly long time, no?

It seems to me your idea of "mild" criticism is very odd.  In the main, the criticism on here is far from mild; and is often extremely offensive, and puerile.

I haven't had it all my own way, and have never run away from criticism of my beliefs:  quite the opposite.  I just wish more of it was constructive and not just vitriol and silly references to fairies and magic.

The "Vitriol" I reserve for the way in which Christians seem to cling to the belief that any other religion is wrong, blasphemous and beyond question.

But it isn't true. Pagan religions are pagan because the entities do not exist. But as for other religions being wrong or blasphemous it is something I have never heard about. Only one God after all.


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When are Christians going to acknowledge that the oldest religious artifact yet discovered is of Pagan origin - the Venus of Willedorf, a small statuette 23,000 to 25,000 years old, that, by comparison Christianity is a Johnny-come-lately on the religious scene.
  There we have it and now they think is 23,000 to 25,000
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Estimated to have been carved 24,000–22,000 BCE,
Catherine McCoid and LeRoy McDermott hypothesise that the figurines may have been created as self-portraits [10] in spite of the fact that no facial features are depicted.

NOT a religious artifact...
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The fact that my belief is pantheistic recognises that no-one, not even a deity can know everything about everything and reflects the real world of specialisation; deities who have particular talents to be called upon when needed, exactly as you would call upon a dentist or a doctor - you would not go to a doctor to get you teeth seen to.
Assumptions.. still require belief/faith.
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Magic is NOT part of the Pagan belief. Magic, Witchraft, is a practice within the Pagan community, practiced by some and not by others, but using the forces of nature and the power of the trained mind to achieve a change in the physical world.

Like antibiotics achieve change in medical conditions within the body returning it back to normal. That is right... if magic worked we would not require a doctor would we. If you had an abscess  on your appendix would you cast a spell or let the surgeon operate. Christianity allows for surgeons to do work their gift.

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Your beliefs are your beliefs to which you are perfectly entitled, you are not, however, in my opinion, entitled to denigrate or dismiss as false my beliefs just because you do not agree with them, and I am entitled to my beliefs, I do not try in anyway to convert you to my belief, why do you conider it your right to try to convert me by the denigration of what I believe as "silly"?

Logically, speaking how could you stop someone believing in something they know to be unreal.  If Christianity was such, then you would believe in that too. Your beliefs are no concern of ours but when you openly dismiss and insult people then you are in no position to make demands on others. Or demand respect when you have none yourself for others.
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Incidentally - I do NOT believe in fairies! Some Pagans do, but I do not.


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« Reply #163 on: October 02, 2015, 02:23:34 PM »
But first you would need to define 'believe in' and 'fairy'.

I do not believe that fairies exist.

They are a pretty fairy tale for children and artists.

If we mean pretty little creatures with gossamer wings, I agree.

What about nature spirits?

You mean evil spirit within the world. Sorry Rhi, couldn't resist it... :D
On a serious note, I believe it to be just another form of escapism for some people to hold on to. ;)
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« Reply #164 on: October 02, 2015, 02:26:19 PM »
I also picked my nose at one point Suzy.

Is that more interesting to you?

Dirty buggar get a tissue and wash your hands after. :o >:(
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« Reply #165 on: October 02, 2015, 02:27:02 PM »
I am a bit pleased with myself. :)

In the last 30 minutes I have managed to get rid of a wasp nest in our shed, for once without getting stung. :) Normally I sustain a few stings when I have to destroy a nest!

I have also managed to touch in areas of cream paintwork around the house using brilliant white paint coloured to the right shade with a tea bag, it seems to have worked! :)

Floo, how did you get rid of the wasps nest got one in the garden cupboard. Thanks...
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« Reply #166 on: October 02, 2015, 02:43:34 PM »
Blimey Gordon you are going to be done for treason, OFF WITH YOUR HEAD, and I am going to be done for blasphemy! ;D ;D ;D




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« Reply #167 on: October 02, 2015, 04:14:37 PM »
Yeah, you probably won't get far talking to pagans if you think fairies and magic are 'silly'.

So no grown ups there then.
Well, we will have to let you children carry on pretending the things you know are not real are there....Good Luck

Like your god and the "risen" Christ you mean!
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« Reply #168 on: October 05, 2015, 05:48:38 PM »
To anyone who may be interested.

My wife and I may well be appearing in a programme on ITV1 this Thursday evening at 7.30pm. The name of the programme is "Growing Old - Care in Crisis?: Tonight". I hasten to add that we were only a part of the programme.

You may be interested in the background to it, so here goes.

We were asked, along with several other couples(of mature? age), to take part in this programme. Our part was to demonstrate the value of dancing as you get older, followed by a group discussion with Penny Marshall(the interviewer). The discussion was a great deal to do with care in the home, the role of the NHS as regards the older generation and it also touched upon the problems associated with going into an actual care home. Both my wife and I have strong views upon these subjects, and, hopefully and especially, my wife's rather unconventional views will be broadcast in the programme. The whole thing took nearly three hours to film, and we each had to sign a disclaimer as regards editing etc. so I hope that any views expressed are not taken out of context(!).

Of course they may decide to cut it altogether, but I doubt that somehow.

You can easily recognise us because we are obviously the best dancers. ::) ;)
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« Reply #169 on: October 05, 2015, 06:12:49 PM »
Please post a reminder on thursday morning, enki. That sounds interesting.
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« Reply #170 on: October 06, 2015, 04:18:26 PM »
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Recent posts seem to have become more fractious than informative - so perhaps this would be a good time to move on!

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« Reply #171 on: October 07, 2015, 09:33:58 AM »
End of the world is nigh.

Wednesday 07 October 2015 apparently.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/end-of-world-7-october-ebible-fellowship

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« Reply #172 on: October 07, 2015, 04:59:07 PM »
This forum was jogging a long quite nicely, on the whole, until a certain poster turned up again! Their presence seems to be like a curse on the forum, if one believes in such things! >:(

Don't try and detract from your duplicitous behaviour:  it was not I who unearthed it!
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« Reply #173 on: October 07, 2015, 05:06:34 PM »
This forum was jogging a long quite nicely, on the whole, until a certain poster turned up again! Their presence seems to be like a curse on the forum, if one believes in such things! >:(

Well, for about half an hour, it's quite enjoyable watching his wrecking behaviour, but then it gets boring.  Surely he's be better off on a nice Christian forum, where there are no personal attacks and nothing interesting happens.
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« Reply #174 on: October 07, 2015, 05:30:54 PM »
This forum was jogging a long quite nicely, on the whole, until a certain poster turned up again! Their presence seems to be like a curse on the forum, if one believes in such things! >:(

Well, for about half an hour, it's quite enjoyable watching his wrecking behaviour, but then it gets boring.  Surely he's be better off on a nice Christian forum, where there are no personal attacks and nothing interesting happens.

I reckon the poster in question must be trying to get into the Guinness Book of Records for the number of posts he has chalked up since his reappearance! ::) About 100, I believe!

What about your little episode of 'memory loss?"  Still trying to divert attention, eh.

 It's the first time this forum has come alive in the last two months, whilst I was away.  I only respond to other people's comments  -  they can't help themselves!   ;)
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