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Maeght, He has already made it clear that he does.That is the only real issue in this thread, the mechanics of epigenetic influences on sexuality and that they could be manipulated to give a particular result is assumed as a given - making the whole thing hypothetical.
I'm assuming he would be happy with gay parents choosing homosexual orientation for their children if they wanted.
Shaker's Law was vindicated when Shaker came back here from his flounce/snit.
You keep claiming that but you did flounce and come back Shaker.
Nah, didn't think so!
Quote from: torridon on May 02, 2015, 08:13:37 AMQuote from: Sriram on May 02, 2015, 06:40:43 AMAnyway....let me finish on this thread by saying that homosexuality is an abnormality because it goes against fundamental evolutionary instincts of procreation and survival of the species. There is no doubt about that.... That's just a blinkered narrow minded value judgement,you need to grow your mind and your understanding of evolutionary processes. The facts that homosexuality persists at a fairly consistent level across cultures and over time, the evidence of genetic components, the fact that it occurs in some form or other in many species, these all indicate that it is a quite natural feature, and the incidence level of around 3% is presumably the optimal level selected in homo sapiens. If we try to alter that there will be unintended consequences for sure.torridon,1. Something can be perfectly natural and still be abnormal. There are so many abnormalities thrown up by nature spontaneously everyday. They don't stop being abnormalities just because they are natural. And just because something is natural we don't stop treating the abnormalities or correcting them. So..there is nothing wrong in seeing some trait as an abnormality and trying to correct it.....however natural it may be. 2. Secondly, you are forgetting that we are talking about epigenetics. This implies lifestyle and behavioral causes. So...its possible that many of the homosexuals are not spontaneous and natural abnormalities but are caused by faulty lifestyle and behavioral patterns of their parents or grandparents. This is the crux of this thread. In fact, it is very important that research is accelerated and the reasons for the epigenetic changes identified quickly. This could built awareness in the people and bring out the importance of lifestyle, diet, stress and so on.
Quote from: Sriram on May 02, 2015, 06:40:43 AMAnyway....let me finish on this thread by saying that homosexuality is an abnormality because it goes against fundamental evolutionary instincts of procreation and survival of the species. There is no doubt about that.... That's just a blinkered narrow minded value judgement,you need to grow your mind and your understanding of evolutionary processes. The facts that homosexuality persists at a fairly consistent level across cultures and over time, the evidence of genetic components, the fact that it occurs in some form or other in many species, these all indicate that it is a quite natural feature, and the incidence level of around 3% is presumably the optimal level selected in homo sapiens. If we try to alter that there will be unintended consequences for sure.
Anyway....let me finish on this thread by saying that homosexuality is an abnormality because it goes against fundamental evolutionary instincts of procreation and survival of the species. There is no doubt about that....
Quote from: Sriram on May 02, 2015, 10:30:26 AMQuote from: torridon on May 02, 2015, 08:13:37 AMQuote from: Sriram on May 02, 2015, 06:40:43 AMAnyway....let me finish on this thread by saying that homosexuality is an abnormality because it goes against fundamental evolutionary instincts of procreation and survival of the species. There is no doubt about that.... That's just a blinkered narrow minded value judgement,you need to grow your mind and your understanding of evolutionary processes. The facts that homosexuality persists at a fairly consistent level across cultures and over time, the evidence of genetic components, the fact that it occurs in some form or other in many species, these all indicate that it is a quite natural feature, and the incidence level of around 3% is presumably the optimal level selected in homo sapiens. If we try to alter that there will be unintended consequences for sure.torridon,1. Something can be perfectly natural and still be abnormal. There are so many abnormalities thrown up by nature spontaneously everyday. They don't stop being abnormalities just because they are natural. And just because something is natural we don't stop treating the abnormalities or correcting them. So..there is nothing wrong in seeing some trait as an abnormality and trying to correct it.....however natural it may be. 2. Secondly, you are forgetting that we are talking about epigenetics. This implies lifestyle and behavioral causes. So...its possible that many of the homosexuals are not spontaneous and natural abnormalities but are caused by faulty lifestyle and behavioral patterns of their parents or grandparents. This is the crux of this thread. In fact, it is very important that research is accelerated and the reasons for the epigenetic changes identified quickly. This could built awareness in the people and bring out the importance of lifestyle, diet, stress and so on.We can do as much research as you want, it still will not validate your prejuduces. You just use 'epigenetics' as cover for bigotry and the bottom line is that all your talk of 'abnormalities' and 'faulty lifestyles' is just your personal value calls and is nothing to do with evidence or research. The human genome funds all manner of diversity, not just in sexuality, and this diversity is something to be valued, it cuts to the core of the success of our species. If you cannot grasp any of the unique contribution that homosexuality brings to our species then that is a sad loss of a tiny blinkered mind.
Does that mean that blowjobs aren't Christian, JC?
What exactly is your rectum's function Leo? And don't you dare write, bum fun.
You get some interesting discussions on here of a Sunday afternoon sometimes ...
What did I tell you Leo? You're fired. Grab your purse and leave! (smilies)Rhi, what's a blowjob?
Quote from: Rhiannon on May 03, 2015, 01:09:28 PMDoes that mean that blowjobs aren't Christian, JC?Some churches do teach that oral sex is wrong.
