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BashfulAnthony

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #800 on: July 04, 2015, 11:22:08 AM »
There is no God, is a belief.

There are no flower fairies is a belief. So?

So teaching your children "there is no God" is teaching them a belief rather than a fact.

One persons fact is another persons opinion.

Belief is just an opinion.

How many parents don't allow their opinions to influence their children?

Part of bringing up children involves passing on important things

Providing you don't teach them that beliefs are facts.  :)

You present them with the alternatives, and they decide.  And you do not decry any chosen religion or belief because you don't accept them.  Neither do you advocate atheism simply because that is your choice.
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #801 on: July 04, 2015, 11:44:23 AM »


No need to be disrespectful:  I wouldn't dream of disrespecting whatever clap-trap you believe.   :D :D

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Nice one! ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #802 on: July 04, 2015, 11:47:22 AM »
There is no God, is a belief.

There are no flower fairies is a belief. So?

So teaching your children "there is no God" is teaching them a belief rather than a fact.

One persons fact is another persons opinion.

Belief is just an opinion.

How many parents don't allow their opinions to influence their children?

Part of bringing up children involves passing on important things

Providing you don't teach them that beliefs are facts.  :)

You present them with the alternatives, and they decide.  And you do not decry any chosen religion or belief because you don't accept them.  Neither do you advocate atheism simply because that is your choice.

Atheism again is not a choice!

Also, it is the default position for ALL humans at birth.
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #803 on: July 04, 2015, 12:08:17 PM »
There is no God, is a belief.

There are no flower fairies is a belief. So?

So teaching your children "there is no God" is teaching them a belief rather than a fact.

One persons fact is another persons opinion.

Belief is just an opinion.

How many parents don't allow their opinions to influence their children?

Part of bringing up children involves passing on important things

Providing you don't teach them that beliefs are facts.  :)

You present them with the alternatives, and they decide.  And you do not decry any chosen religion or belief because you don't accept them.  Neither do you advocate atheism simply because that is your choice.

Atheism again is not a choice!

Also, it is the default position for ALL humans at birth.

Agreed
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BashfulAnthony

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #804 on: July 05, 2015, 07:30:24 AM »


No need to be disrespectful:  I wouldn't dream of disrespecting whatever clap-trap you believe.   :D :D

Oh gawd ... Mona Lott is back!

Nice one! ;D ;D ;D ;D

One infantile admiring another's infantile comment. 
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #805 on: July 05, 2015, 08:35:10 AM »


No need to be disrespectful:  I wouldn't dream of disrespecting whatever clap-trap you believe.   :D :D

Oh gawd ... Mona Lott is back!

Nice one! ;D ;D ;D ;D

One infantile admiring another's infantile comment.

An even more infantile reacting to an obvious wind-up. Leonard 1 - BA 0
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #806 on: July 05, 2015, 08:43:45 AM »
There is no God, is a belief.

There are no flower fairies is a belief. So?

So teaching your children "there is no God" is teaching them a belief rather than a fact.

One persons fact is another persons opinion.

Belief is just an opinion.

How many parents don't allow their opinions to influence their children?

Part of bringing up children involves passing on important things

Providing you don't teach them that beliefs are facts.  :)

You present them with the alternatives, and they decide.  And you do not decry any chosen religion or belief because you don't accept them.  Neither do you advocate atheism simply because that is your choice.

Atheism again is not a choice!

Also, it is the default position for ALL humans at birth.

No it isn't.

A baby is born an agnostic, not an atheist.

No, an agnostic is one someone who believes it impossible to know anything about God or about the creation - I don't really think babies are born with an opinion on that.

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #807 on: July 05, 2015, 09:30:20 AM »

No the word agnostic means "without knowledge"

It is generally accepted to mean someone who does not know, or believes that it is impossible to know, if a god exists: (Cambridge ED)

A baby is not born with any opinion about gods at all, so it can't be agnostic.

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #808 on: July 05, 2015, 09:34:17 AM »

No the word agnostic means "without knowledge"

It is generally accepted to mean someone who does not know, or believes that it is impossible to know, if a god exists: (Cambridge ED)

A baby is not born with any opinion about gods at all, so it can't be agnostic.


Can't be an Athiest either then, because you need to have a concept of God before you can reject it.

Correct.
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #809 on: July 05, 2015, 09:36:23 AM »

No the word agnostic means "without knowledge"

It is generally accepted to mean someone who does not know, or believes that it is impossible to know, if a god exists: (Cambridge ED)

A baby is not born with any opinion about gods at all, so it can't be agnostic.


Can't be an Athiest either then, because you need to have a concept of God before you can reject it.

I accept that. Babies are born with no knowledge of anything, except their prenatal experiences.

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #810 on: July 05, 2015, 09:44:39 AM »

At birth I didn't believe in the world outside my experience  either, but it doesn't mean it didn't exist.

No Rose, you are mistaken. You had no experience of the world outside, so you couldn't possibly have conceived the idea of "believing" or "not believing" in it.

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #811 on: July 05, 2015, 09:52:02 AM »

No the word agnostic means "without knowledge"

It is generally accepted to mean someone who does not know, or believes that it is impossible to know, if a god exists: (Cambridge ED)

A baby is not born with any opinion about gods at all, so it can't be agnostic.


Can't be an Athiest either then, because you need to have a concept of God before you can reject it.

Atheists don't reject God - they have no belief in God.

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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #812 on: July 05, 2015, 09:57:32 AM »

No the word agnostic means "without knowledge"

It is generally accepted to mean someone who does not know, or believes that it is impossible to know, if a god exists: (Cambridge ED)

A baby is not born with any opinion about gods at all, so it can't be agnostic.


Can't be an Athiest either then, because you need to have a concept of God before you can reject it.

Atheists don't reject God - they have no belief in God.

You reject the concept of God.  You are just playing semantics.
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Re: Homosexuality!
« Reply #813 on: July 05, 2015, 10:00:26 AM »
No I don't and no I'm not.