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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1875 on: June 13, 2016, 07:09:54 PM »
Though I doubt that Mr Corbyn can be bothered.
If that is so why is he siding with the pro lot in his party? I wouldn't be surprised if he hints very heavily to the Labour voters to vote leave.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1876 on: June 13, 2016, 07:30:55 PM »
*steam coming out of ears* emoticon here (the one we used to have on BBC message board)

Yet again, the number of minutes given to the leave lot (on the chris Mason, in/out, 5:30 slot on PM programme radio4)
 was far more than for the remain side.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1877 on: June 13, 2016, 07:45:49 PM »
As opposed to the justice secretary lying?

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1878 on: June 13, 2016, 11:37:38 PM »
I think a lot of Labour voters are shy Outers. Some are just angry at Labour for not listing to them and being pompous metropolitan elites.
That would be why they are flocking to Gove and Boris Johnson who are as far away from being a pompous metropolitan elite as my left bollock is from my right............not to mention that other great ''Son of Nutty Slack''..., Mr Nigel Farage.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1879 on: June 14, 2016, 05:57:51 AM »
7\4 on, Stay. Time to get really worried, Susan Doris

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1880 on: June 14, 2016, 06:40:43 AM »
It is certainly very difficult to remain an incurable optimist at the moment!

Do the leavers really believe that the world and his wife will come flocking here to consult the opinions of Boris and Gove, Farrage and the rest? I just fervently hope there is a silent majority out there who will be voting remain.....
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1881 on: June 14, 2016, 08:52:14 AM »
Huge move to Leave now at 11/8 on Stay, 11/8 against leave. Pretty well evens given the momentum. Enormous amounts of money going on the market for a political bet.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1882 on: June 14, 2016, 09:39:29 AM »
Huge move to Leave now at 11/8 on Stay, 11/8 against leave. Pretty well evens given the momentum. Enormous amounts of money going on the market for a political bet.

The amount that gamblers are staking will be peanuts compared with the huge amounts that the speculators will be staking on the markets. In the event of a Brexit vote fortunes will be made - and the losers will be us!
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1883 on: June 14, 2016, 09:44:18 AM »
Huge move to Leave now at 11/8 on Stay, 11/8 against leave. Pretty well evens given the momentum. Enormous amounts of money going on the market for a political bet.

Implied odds Betfair 57% chance of staying, come a long way!
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1884 on: June 14, 2016, 09:53:35 AM »
I was interviewed by Ipsos Mori for their latest poll yesterday.

I was the one that said that snivel* Farridge is a tit. Not sure that option will show up when the poll is reported though.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1885 on: June 14, 2016, 10:00:13 AM »
I was interviewed by Ipsos Mori for their latest poll yesterday.

I was the one that said that snivel* Farridge is a tit. Not sure that option will show up when the poll is reported though.

* thank you, autocorrect.
I'm surprised you could find such mild language to describe him Rhiannon.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1886 on: June 14, 2016, 10:25:13 AM »
I'm surprised you could find such mild language to describe him Rhiannon.

I didn't want to shock the nice lady asking the questions. No idea where she was from exactly but her accent was Eastern European.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1887 on: June 14, 2016, 10:51:29 AM »
I didn't want to shock the nice lady asking the questions. No idea where she was from exactly but her accent was Eastern European.

So she would possibly have had some colourful language of her own to describe the git.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1888 on: June 14, 2016, 02:14:05 PM »
The trouble is, that Leave will not be able to control the racism and xenophobia which are being unleashed.  Immigrants are being widely blamed for shortages of housing, poor NHS service, and so on.   These will probably continue under a right-wing Boris/Gove government - what will the racists do then?
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1889 on: June 14, 2016, 02:24:43 PM »
The problem as I see it is, that for reasons that are not entirely clear, the debate has to be conducted in sound bites - which means that complex arguments can't be properly explained or tested - so it's reduced to who shouts the loudest.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1890 on: June 14, 2016, 02:59:25 PM »
The problem as I see it is, that for reasons that are not entirely clear, the debate has to be conducted in sound bites - which means that complex arguments can't be properly explained or tested - so it's reduced to who shouts the loudest.

Isn't it more that some of the public are so conditioned to hearing sound bites that they cannot now digest information that is presented in anything other than nanoseconds?
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1891 on: June 14, 2016, 03:28:52 PM »
Isn't it more that some of the public are so conditioned to hearing sound bites that they cannot now digest information that is presented in anything other than nanoseconds?

Maybe, you are right - but if that is the way we are to make major decisions it doesn't bode well for the future of this country.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1892 on: June 14, 2016, 03:45:07 PM »
Maybe, you are right - but if that is the way we are to make major decisions it doesn't bode well for the future of this country.

I completely agree. Totally depressing.
Before we work on Artificial Intelligence shouldn't we address the problem of natural stupidity.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1893 on: June 14, 2016, 05:06:12 PM »
What we need is a major national corporation to be given the purpose and access to resources for:

(a) sustaining citizenship and civil society;
...

They could then provide portals to information and facilities for in-depth discussion of various topics and issues including economics and politics (or even culture and religion) - by using and developing emerging communications technology and services.

Never mind ... I think twitter has won.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1894 on: June 14, 2016, 06:20:32 PM »
You are now just twisting things or have a total lack of understanding of the what is actually going on.
I'm telling you morons the truth.

You don't like the CAP but it is all that is keeping most of our farmers from going bankrupt.

You idiots have not thought out the real consequences of a Leave result at all.

If the vote is for Leave, many people are totally fucked, but that's OK, at least the country will be run by Michael Gove and Boris Johnson, who may be fuckwits, but they are English fuckwits.

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1895 on: June 14, 2016, 06:29:34 PM »
I was interviewed by Ipsos Mori for their latest poll yesterday.

I was the one that said that snivel* Farridge is a tit. Not sure that option will show up when the poll is reported though.

* thank you, autocorrect.

He is a tit but not the only one.  Neil Hamilton who was recently on Question Time is a big tit, I can't believe anyone would seriously support a man who believes not only that paid maternity leave should not be allowed but child benefit should be scrapped.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1896 on: June 14, 2016, 07:32:16 PM »
That would be why they are flocking to Gove and Boris Johnson who are as far away from being a pompous metropolitan elite as my left bollock is from my right............not to mention that other great ''Son of Nutty Slack''..., Mr Nigel Farage.
They aren't necessarily moving to the Leave vote they have been there for some time; hence the million Labour votes UKIP got in the GE. There are some Left and far Left and Unions who want to leave with some great reasons. If only they had a more widespread platform in the media...

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1897 on: June 14, 2016, 07:42:20 PM »
I'm telling you morons the truth.

You don't like the CAP but it is all that is keeping most of our farmers from going bankrupt.

You idiots have not thought out the real consequences of a Leave result at all.

If the vote is for Leave, many people are totally fucked, but that's OK, at least the country will be run by Michael Gove and Boris Johnson, who may be fuckwits, but they are English fuckwits.
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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1898 on: June 14, 2016, 07:43:47 PM »
I'm telling you morons the truth.

You don't like the CAP but it is all that is keeping most of our farmers from going bankrupt.

You idiots have not thought out the real consequences of a Leave result at all.

If the vote is for Leave, many people are totally fucked, but that's OK, at least the country will be run by Michael Gove and Boris Johnson, who may be fuckwits, but they are English fuckwits.

Jeremy's right about the CAP. I had to do some research on this for something or other using the farming press as my sources. Without it hill farmers especially would operate at a loss and there would be no hill farming except for niche markets (Nstional Trust for example).

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Re: The result of the EU referendum:
« Reply #1899 on: June 14, 2016, 08:05:22 PM »
Project fear with rude bits....niiiice!
Indeed. "You morons," "you idiots" and "fuckwits" does not exactly a sound and secure case suggest.

Especially when a search for "hominem' by the foregoing posters brings up several results. So it goes.
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