The result of the EU referendum:

[L.A.]

Personally I'd rather bet on today's horse racing.

More enjoyable if not profitable.

[ProfessorDavey]

I've just read his post: it says they have dual nationality right there in it.

Surely the point is that they have dual nationality because they are Russians. An EU citizen does not need to go through all this British citizenship malarky because they have a right to live and work here anyway. Russians in the same situation have to apply for British citizenship. Ironically, this has given them a say in a situation that doesn't affect them but has disenfranchised a large group of people that will be significantly impacted by the decision.

Thanks JP - clearly you get it.

[ProfessorDavey]

Continuing on with the theme of voter eligibility, I am completely at a loss as to why they are using eligibility for general elections, rather than EU elections. It makes no sense at all.

Here is another anomaly - here is a list of people who have made representations on either side of the argument in the run up to the vote:

Lord Sugar
Baroness Warsi (she who changed sides)
Lord Lawson
The Archbishop of Canterbury
Neil Kinnock
Lord Bamford (he of JCB and Brexit)

Guess what - none are able to vote, why? Because they are all members of the House of Lords and therefore ineligible to vote in general elections.

[SqueakyVoice]

Guess what - none are able to vote, why? Because they are all members of the House of Lords and therefore ineligible to vote in general elections.

It would appear there's been some sort of specific amendment to allow members of the HoL to vote in this referendum.  They're explicitly mentioned in the list of people eligible.

http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/research/eu-referendum/background-uk-eu-referendum-2016/

(Don't know what the position was for the AV referendum a few years ago.)

[Nearly Sane]

Market moved further to Stay. 87% likelihood of remain. More money been matched on Betfair in 4 days than the whole of the General Election.

[L.A.]

I've already made my bet by not getting my holiday Euros ahead of the vote.

[ProfessorDavey]

I've already made my bet by not getting my holiday Euros ahead of the vote.

Actually I think the Euro/£ levels would have been somewhat less affected than $/£ - because although a vote for Brexit would massively weakened the £ it would also harm the EU and therefore the Euro.

We are off to the states and Canada in the summer - a vote for Brexit would make that a much, much more expensive trip

[L.A.]

Actually I think the Euro/£ levels would have been somewhat less affected than $/£ - because although a vote for Brexit would massively weakened the £ it would also harm the EU and therefore the Euro.

We are off to the states and Canada in the summer - a vote for Brexit would make that a much, much more expensive trip

There's going to be some 'interesting' things happening on the money markets tonight.

[Nearly Sane]

There's going to be some 'interesting' things happening on the money markets tonight.

Particularly because there is no official exit poll. The markets will be the thing to watch at 10.

[L.A.]

Particularly because there is no official exit poll. The markets will be the thing to watch at 10.

But there is believed to be a private poll commissioned by speculators.

My daughters partner works for one of the big banks in Canary Wharf and a lot of people will be working all night. It's reckoned it's going to be the busiest trading period ever.

'Project Fear' seems quite a reasonable set of forecasts when you consider the stuff that is going on!

[Nearly Sane]

But there is believed to be a private poll commissioned by speculators.

My daughters partner works for one of the big banks in Canary Wharf and a lot of people will be working all night. It's reckoned it's going to be the busiest trading period ever.

'Project Fear' seems quite a reasonable set of forecasts when you consider the stuff that is going on!

Yes that's why the markets will be the thing to.watch
 They should give a good indication of what the poll says.

As to the markets doing something that they alrady predict themselves as being a good or a bad thing, then that's just circular.

[L.A.]

Yes that's why the markets will be the thing to.watch
 They should give a good indication of what the poll says.

As to the markets doing something that they alrady predict themselves as being a good or a bad thing, then that's just circular.

I suppose it will all depend on how the exit polls and early results turn out. If it looks like a clear Remain, I would expect trading to be relatively quiet with the Pound and Euro recovering to sensible levels. If  it looks like a Leave vote there will be panic with heavy trading and the Pound crashing, but if it is too close to call, there will be frantic trading all night with the Pound and Euro bouncing around all over the place.

[jakswan]

Just checked my Ladbrokes account for the live odds, where there are various bets on offer - as follows (for anyone who fancies a bet).

Personally I'd rather bet on today's horse racing.

Why would anyone use Ladbrokes in these days of betfair?

[Gordon]

Why would anyone use Ladbrokes in these days of betfair?

Familiarity, in my case anyway, and since I mostly do Totepool betting (Placepots/Quadpots) it makes no difference which company is used since the pools are centrally managed by the Tote.

[Nearly Sane]

That's now more matched on Betfair today than for t total of the General  Election

[Nearly Sane]

Just to note if it is within one vote, looks like I won't make it back in time to vote due to 5 hours travel delay

[Aruntraveller]

Just to note if it is within one vote, looks like I won't make it back in time to vote due to 5 hours travel delay

Tip for the future NS - postal vote! Much easier anyway.

[jakswan]

Odds are nailed on now 1.18.

Ohh well time to move on I hear Chilcott is coming soon!

Although a work colleague, a Corbyn supporter is a Brexiter but a little shy, I wonder if that will be a thing like shy Tories.

Mmm its very cheap to lay remain on Betfair.

[Nearly Sane]

Tip for the future NS - postal vote! Much easier anyway.

I like the physicality of voting. I like doing it on the day. I had allowed 4 hours.

[L.A.]

Odds are nailed on now 1.18.

Ohh well time to move on I hear Chilcott is coming soon!

Although a work colleague, a Corbyn supporter is a Brexiter but a little shy, I wonder if that will be a thing like shy Tories.

Mmm its very cheap to lay remain on Betfair.

I think it is the Remainders who are likely to be'shy' with all the reports of violence that has been displayed by the more unstable elements of Brexit

[Nearly Sane]

Sprinted off plane, jumped over bags and as of 5 minutes ago voted.

[jeremyp]

After four results, it is looking pretty bad.

[jakswan]

After four results, it is looking pretty bad.

or good!

[jeremyp]

or good!

No, it's bad.

Do you know why the pound is plummeting right now? It's not because everybody thinks a leave vote is going to be good.

[L.A.]

It just goes to show that turkeys really can vote for Christmas - standby to be stuffed!