The result of the EU referendum:

[Harrowby Hall]

or good!

It is bad.

Perhaps we shall eventually see 23 June replacing 5 November as the day on which people celebrate their contempt for government.

[L.A.]

Yes, I know you think he's wrong but you seem to be saying that based on simply ignoring his argument and using you own feelings as indicative of what would happen. Given the lack of follow through in how people said they would react with a Tory Govt, and how they then felt afterwards, Biagi, an ex SNP  MSP has facts while you have your personal opinion about what you would do.

Added to the comments from Humza Yousaf, it would seem that the SNP are clearly not confident of what will happen. Indeed I know a number of long term members of the party who think it will make Scottish independence harder to achieve. One of the issues that the Yes campaign struggled with was the lack of clarity around continued EU membership. Given Brexitx that's only going to become less clear.

You were saying NS:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

"First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Scotland had delivered a "strong, unequivocal vote" to remain in the EU.
Leave has built an insurmountable lead in the race - with the BBC forecasting a win for Leave by 52% to 48%.
Ms Sturgeon's predecessor, Alex Salmond, said the result could lead to a second independence referendum."

[jeremyp]

You were saying NS:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

"First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Scotland had delivered a "strong, unequivocal vote" to remain in the EU.
Leave has built an insurmountable lead in the race - with the BBC forecasting a win for Leave by 52% to 48%.
Ms Sturgeon's predecessor, Alex Salmond, said the result could lead to a second independence referendum."

I honestly wouldn't blame them. England has just dragged them to disaster.

They're probably feeling pretty sick in Gibraltar too.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Keunsberg spinning leave Vote as a labour problem.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Hannan smiling as pound crashes.

[SusanDoris]

It is grim news indeed. However, I'm going to try not to think about it while I'm away. Going to be difficult, though.

[Nearly Sane]

You were saying NS:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36599102

"First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Scotland had delivered a "strong, unequivocal vote" to remain in the EU.
Leave has built an insurmountable lead in the race - with the BBC forecasting a win for Leave by 52% to 48%.
Ms Sturgeon's predecessor, Alex Salmond, said the result could lead to a second independence referendum."

And? Neither you, nor Alex, nor Nicola, nor me know what happens with voters intentions. A substantial part of the Yes vote voted Leave. Things are going to be complex here, that hasn't changed and even Alec who is the more bullish person in the SNP is only using the word 'could'. Unfortunately we live in interesting times.

[Nearly Sane]

Off to get my grandparents birth certificates this weekend

[L.A.]

And? Neither you, nor Alex, nor Nicola, nor me know what happens with voters intentions. A substantial part of the Yes vote voted Leave. Things are going to be complex here, that hasn't changed and even Alec who is the more bullish person in the SNP is only using the word 'could'. Unfortunately we live in interesting times.

I fully agree things are going to be complex, but everything has changed and it is difficult to escape the logic of the case for a second Scottish referendum.

[floo]

I am deeply depressed. I hope I am wrong but I suspect we will regret leaving the EU, BIG TIME. The pound has crashed, the stock market is well down. Any money we think we will be saving will probably be used to clear up the mess!

[Nearly Sane]

I fully agree things are going to be complex, but everything has changed and it is difficult to escape the logic of the case for a second Scottish referendum.

I am not arguing about the logic, but about the likelihood.

[L.A.]

I am not arguing about the logic, but about the likelihood.

You think that the Scots are illogical?

[jakswan]

Despite Cameron saying he wouldn't resign and would trigger article 50 immediately he's flipped on both. I won my bets!

[Nearly Sane]

You think that the Scots are illogical?

I think we all are.

[floo]

I am sorry Cameron has resigned.

[Nearly Sane]

You think that the Scots are illogical?

As to the actual logic. There is a huge question about how Scotland would manage to do this in the time of Brexit, which means they would have to renegotiate in and that creates more uncertainty when it looks likely finances will be screwed across the UK. I was a Yes Voter but i'm not convinced we currently know enough about what is going to happen for positions to be logical.

[Aruntraveller]

I am sorry Cameron has resigned.

It was inevitable. His position was untenable once the result went for Brexit.

[L.A.]

As to the actual logic. There is a huge question about how Scotland would manage to do this in the time of Brexit, which means they would have to renegotiate in and that creates more uncertainty when it looks likely finances will be screwed across the UK. I was a Yes Voter but i'm not convinced we currently know enough about what is going to happen for positions to be logical.

I think you start from where you are, and there is probably never going to be a better time.

[jeremyp]

And? Neither you, nor Alex, nor Nicola, nor me know what happens with voters intentions. A substantial part of the Yes vote voted Leave. Things are going to be complex here, that hasn't changed and even Alec who is the more bullish person in the SNP is only using the word 'could'. Unfortunately we live in interesting times.

Alex Salmond was practically demanding the independence referendum on R4 this morning.

[jeremyp]

Despite Cameron saying he wouldn't resign and would trigger article 50 immediately he's flipped on both. I won my bets!

Another Leaver lie: he has resigned. You can stop now, you've won.

Nigel Farage has now admitted that the £350 million promise to the NHS was a mistake. He has also said "We need a plan now". What? You mean there isn't one?

I'm sitting in an office with 100's of people who now think they will all lose their jobs because the company will almost certainly relocate to Germany. Do you want to come round here and tell them to their faces that they are better out than in?

[L.A.]

I am deeply depressed. I hope I am wrong but I suspect we will regret leaving the EU, BIG TIME. The pound has crashed, the stock market is well down. Any money we think we will be saving will probably be used to clear up the mess!

I strongly suspect that a hell of a lot of people who voted Leave are already regretting their actions - They apparently believed that 'Project Fear' was just a ploy!

[Harrowby Hall]

I am sorry Cameron has resigned.

As Trent has said, it was inevitable.

But why are you sorry that a man who put his party before his country is on his way out? He did so after the Scottish referendum and his intention, in calling the EU referendum was to give him more control over his own party. He has had a big kick in the bollocks now, and it is going to hurt him for a long, long time.


First consequence of result of referendum: increase in price of petrol at the pumps? Typical Brexit oaf: "I didn't think this would happen!"

[Gonnagle]

Dear Jeremyp,

We need a plan, you turn off the lights and I will make sure all the doors are closed

Gonnagle.

[jeremyp]

There is a huge question about how Scotland would manage to do this in the time of Brexit, which means they would have to renegotiate in and that creates more uncertainty when it looks likely finances will be screwed across the UK. I was a Yes Voter but i'm not convinced we currently know enough about what is going to happen for positions to be logical.

Unless Cameron's successor bottles it, the resignation will go in in the autumn and then there will be a maximum of two years before we are officially out. I don't see how you can legislate for another referendum and dissolve the Union in time for that. Even if you could, you still have the same problem that Scotland is not a member of the EU, the UK is. However, by being independent of the xenophobes south of the border, Scotland can at least apply for membership.

[L.A.]

As Trent has said, it was inevitable.

But why are you sorry that a man who put his party before his country is on his way out? He did so after the Scottish referendum and his intention, in calling the EU referendum was to give him more control over his own party. He has had a big kick in the bollocks now, and it is going to hurt him for a long, long time.

While I'm not going to shed any tears over Cameron's departure, it is worrying when you look at the possible replacements.