The result of the EU referendum:

[Jack Knave]

Of course everything will, but said no change!

Within normal parameters.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

You think the Labour party are intelligent?   

Petrol up 3P a litre.....Boris is a pretty expensive taste.

[Jack Knave]

Cameron no longer has an ass. Even Farage will have to kiss Boris's ring.

No he won't. Anyway if there is a GE Farage will be there in parliament. We still have the expenses scandal of the last GE and by-elections of the Conservatives so more shit on them, meaning UKIP will have an even bigger chance of having some power. 

[Jack Knave]

Petrol up 3P a litre.....Boris is a pretty expensive taste.

That's just stupid to think things happen that fast. The companies have reserves which were bought or agreed months ago.

[Spud]

What might that identity be then Spud, in view of the events of the last 24 hours?

The fact that I am talking to you now is one aspect of it. I know the British have different ancestry and that the Celts have their own ancient languages and came here first. But if the Welsh, with their own language, can call themselves British, why not the Scots? You are all within driving distance of the South East where you can enjoy Mediterranean temperatures. And we love to come and climb your mountains. The same ocean forms a natural defense against invasion for us all.
Also, 2.2 million people in London voted to remain whereas in Scotland 1.7 million did so. So should London be allowed to remain in the EU too?

[Gordon]

The fact that I am talking to you now is one aspect of it. I know the British have different ancestry and that the Celts have their own ancient languages and came here first. But if the Welsh, with their own language, can call themselves British, why not the Scots?

We do, for the present at least, but there is an alternative.

You are all within driving distance of the South East where you can enjoy Mediterranean temperatures. And we love to come and climb your mountains. The same ocean forms a natural defense against invasion for us all.

Aside from right-wing politicians and their agendas, given current political arrangements: which in the case of Scotland might be changed 

Also, 2.2 million people in London voted to remain whereas in Scotland 1.7 million did so. So should London be allowed to remain in the EU too?

One is a city and the other a country with separate legal and education systems and a devolved parliament, so not quite the same thing (as I suspect you must know). It may be that some areas of England may well feel put out by this horrendous decision and this may well yet emerge as an issue.

[L.A.]

One is a city and the other a country with separate legal and education systems and a devolved parliament, so not quite the same thing (as I suspect you must know). It may be that some areas of England may well feel put out by this horrendous decision and this may well yet emerge as an issue.

Maybe all the areas that voted Remain could be allowed to become part of an independent Scotland? 

[Nearly Sane]

So its good news all round, Fan Dabi Dozi.

Enjoy the EURO and Greek style austerity, ten years on Sturgeon will be blaming the EU for it all, must have someone else to blame after all.

Hold the phone though, we are now hearing 'there is no need for haste' from Johnson.

And hearing there is need for haste from the EU.

[L.A.]

And hearing there is need for haste from the EU.

Of course there is need for haste, the future of our children and grandchildren is haemorrhaging away.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

No he won't. Anyway if there is a GE Farage will be there in parliament. We still have the expenses scandal of the last GE and by-elections of the Conservatives so more shit on them, meaning UKIP will have an even bigger chance of having some power.

Well, I know there is a big thing now where we are being exhorted to understand and honour the weirdest of ideas but frankly it is ironic given your ideas that you are talking about normal parameters. What is normal about Britain losing billions in a day.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vote leave people saying how their business almost went under when the last referendum happened.
In those days you had a housing allowance, Government retraining.

If it goes wrong under Brexit you are on your own.

[Nearly Sane]

Of course there is need for haste, the future of our children and grandchildren is haemorrhaging away.

so you agree with what I was saying?

[Spud]

We do, for the present at least, but there is an alternative.

Aside from right-wing politicians and their agendas, given current political arrangements: which in the case of Scotland might be changed 

One is a city and the other a country with separate legal and education systems and a devolved parliament, so not quite the same thing (as I suspect you must know). It may be that some areas of England may well feel put out by this horrendous decision and this may well yet emerge as an issue.

Hi, I don't understand your second paragraph, unless by 'current' you meant something to do with the North Sea...
Agree with the third paragraph, although you do have a large proportion of seats in London's parliament precisely because we have a common geographical 'country', so why should we not have a say in your affairs?

[Nearly Sane]

Hi, I don't understand your second paragraph, unless by 'current' you meant something to do with the North Sea...
Agree with the third paragraph, although you do have a large proportion of seats in London's parliament, so why should we not have a say in your affairs?

where is the acknowledgement that this statement contradicts your earlier one abound 'country'?

[Spud]

This article may clarify:
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/06/england-has-a-soul-if-she-can-keep-it

[Gordon]

Hi, I don't understand your second paragraph, unless by 'current' you meant something to do with the North Sea...

No - I mean that currently Scotland is part of the UK and it may, following this referendum, at some future point it won't be part of the UK.

Agree with the third paragraph, although you do have a large proportion of seats in London's parliament, so why should we not have a say in your affairs?

You mean the UK parliament surely, and who is 'we'? What is reserved to Westminster is for the UK-wide legislature (excepting for designated EVEL stuff) to deal with and then there are the powers that are fully devolved to Holyrood. 

You don't seem up-to-speed with the existing arrangements, Spud.

[Nearly Sane]

This article may clarify:
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/06/england-has-a-soul-if-she-can-keep-it

why would it? It's almost unreadable.

[jakswan]

Aside from right-wing politicians and their agendas, given current political arrangements: which in the case of Scotland might be changed 

Last time I checked the SNP were closer to the Tories than LibDems, Labour or the Greens with regards to tax policy in Scotland. The SNP are almost a centre right policy that spin left with dog whistle anti-English rhetoric thinly veiled when they use the label "Westminster".

Don't get me wrong they have some awesome politicians but the toxic politics of grievance are not welcome, so hopefully indyref2 will resolve this finally.

[Nearly Sane]

Last time I checked the SNP were closer to the Tories than LibDems, Labour or the Greens with regards to tax policy in Scotland. The SNP are almost a centre right policy that spin left with dog whistle anti-English rhetoric thinly veiled when they use the label "Westminster".

Don't get me wrong they have some awesome politicians but the toxic politics of grievance are not welcome, so hopefully indyref2 will resolve this finally.

Last time you talked on this you showed your complete lack of understanding of how the tax system works currently in Scotland and ignored that the proposal from SLab took more away from lower tax payers but there we are

[Gordon]

This article may clarify:
http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/06/england-has-a-soul-if-she-can-keep-it

Good grief Spud: is there no end to your gullibility!

This is ill-informed US drivel that is both patronising nonsense, where the most notable thing about us Scots is that our 'brogue' is difficult for Americans to understand, but here nothing about the political history behind the UK or that Scotland has its own parliament, legal system, education system etc.

Of course this article comes from a journal with a religious agenda - perhaps you should consider other sources of information.

[Gordon]

Last time I checked the SNP were closer to the Tories than LibDems, Labour or the Greens with regards to tax policy in Scotland.

In what way?

iirc they have the power to increase the income tax rate for everyone in Scotland but not to vary this across tax bands. They declined to do so when pressed to by Scottish Labour since this blunt-instrument approach would have involved everyone paying more tax Scotland-wide by default, thereby reducing the income of the least well-paid taxpayers.

[L.A.]

so you agree with what I was saying?

I'll be quite honest, I wasn't exactly sure what you were saying, you use a peculiar turn of phrase,  but of course I agree that there is a need for haste - the speculators are having a field-day with the economy.

[Nearly Sane]

I'll be quite honest, I wasn't exactly sure what you were saying, you use a peculiar turn of phrase,  but of course I agree that there is a need for haste - the speculators are having a field-day with the economy.

  so we can only make decisions fast as possible?

[L.A.]

  so we can only make decisions fast as possible?

No . . . I don't think it is possible to do most things faster than possible

[Nearly Sane]

No . . . I don't think it is possible to do most things faster than possible

Eh?