The quarterly 'Is swearing bad' thread

[Ricky Spanish]

If you want to say "Fuck Off" ippy just grow a pair and do it. it's not illegal.

[Leonard James]

If you want to say "Fuck Off" ippy just grow a pair and do it. it's not illegal.

No, but it's hardly an intelligent thing to say, either!

[Ricky Spanish]

But it's clearly the message that he wants to send:

PS How come whenever I see or hear these sorts of sentiments expounded it immediately comes to mind why don't they go join the Foreign Office

he just hasn't got the globes to come out and say it.

[jeremyp]

If you want to say "Fuck Off" ippy just grow a pair and do it. it's not illegal.

No, but it's hardly an intelligent thing to say, either!

I think that depends on the context.

[Leonard James]

If you want to say "Fuck Off" ippy just grow a pair and do it. it's not illegal.

No, but it's hardly an intelligent thing to say, either!

I think that depends on the context.

We shall have to agree to disagree. For me 'Get lost' is a more suitable way of expressing the feeling. 

[ippy]

But it's clearly the message that he wants to send:

PS How come whenever I see or hear these sorts of sentiments expounded it immediately comes to mind why don't they go join the Foreign Office

he just hasn't got the globes to come out and say it.

Spherical objects?

ippy

[Ricky Spanish]

testicles

[ippy]

If you want to say "Fuck Off" ippy just grow a pair and do it. it's not illegal.

No, but it's hardly an intelligent thing to say, either!

Sometimes we all see or hear something wet and stupid and there are a variety of options that can be used in response, if I was there and heard someone say something so inane, perhaps a raspberry could be a good initial response, in this case it was the written word to be used as an initial response.

I'm of the old school and although swearing doesn't particularly phase me I chose to not use it myself but having said that it doesn't mean that these words don't come to mind from time to time and I would rather hint at them than use them, if any of you prefer to come out with the whole arsenal of the four letter variety, well that's your choice not mine.

ippy     

[Ricky Spanish]

Why hint at them? If that's the sentiment then why not just come out and say it instead of pussy-footing around it?

[floo]

Swearing is unpleasant, especially the use of the 'F' and 'C' words. Surely one can make one's case without demeaning oneself by using them?

[Ricky Spanish]

How is one demeaned by the use of swear words?


{n.b. "if you don't know then I'm not going to tell you" is not a reasonable response to this request}

[floo]

How is one demeaned by the use of swear words?


{n.b. "if you don't know then I'm not going to tell you" is not a reasonable response to this request}

Because it gives the impression one is not particular pleasant or articulate if one has to resort to swearing! But then maybe that doesn't bother you?

[Ricky Spanish]

It gives whom the impression Floo? You? How is that personally demeaning though?

[ippy]

How is one demeaned by the use of swear words?


{n.b. "if you don't know then I'm not going to tell you" is not a reasonable response to this request}

I hope you never have to go to court but if you did for some reason do you think unrestrained swearing would help or hinder your case?

If you think as I do swearing would have a negative effect in a law court surroundings, why do you think that might be?

ippy

[Ricky Spanish]

That isn't an explanation of how it's personally "demeaning" to use swear word ippy, merely an explanation of why it's ill-advised in certain circumstances.

[Nearly Sane]

How is one demeaned by the use of swear words?


{n.b. "if you don't know then I'm not going to tell you" is not a reasonable response to this request}

I hope you never have to go to court but if you did for some reason do you think unrestrained swearing would help or hinder your case?

I you think as I do swearing would have a negative effect in a law court surroundings, why do you think that might be?

ippy

And when I go to see Shakespeare and they are used in the play, is Shakespeare demeaned?

[ippy]

That isn't an explanation of how it's personally "demeaning" to use swear word ippy, merely an explanation of why it's ill-advised in certain circumstances.

Quite right Thrud and why would it be ill advised?

ippy 

[Nearly Sane]

That isn't an explanation of how it's personally "demeaning" to use swear word ippy, merely an explanation of why it's ill-advised in certain circumstances.

Quite right Thrud and why would it be ill advised?

ippy

because others might judge you and you could be done for contempt.

Note if this is a reason why it is personally demeaning then by extension being homosexual in an area controlled by ISIS is personally demeaning, since you might be judged by others and beheaded. Are you arguing that?

[Ricky Spanish]

Quite right Thrud and why would it be ill advised?

because the judge might think that you're not treating the court with respect.

it still doesn't explain why the use of swear words is personally demeaning though

[Nearly Sane]

I notice that the last few posts here are 4 non theists arguing off topic, and I am perfectly well aware one of them is me, might make sense to either get the mods to split this into one of our quarterly is swearing a bad thing threads, or just to start one ourselves. To be honest I think this was one of those that might be bettered suited to being in the Faith Sharing Area

[Nearly Sane]

As per my post on Hope's 'Are we asking the right questions?'thread, a number of us, including me, have derailed it onto the old swearing issue. I am starting this to allow the mods to split those comments off and let Hope's thread cover the subject he raised.

[Shaker]

No.

Next.

[Ricky Spanish]

Does the use of swear words demean the swearer?

[Nearly Sane]

Does the use of swear words demean the swearer?

Imo, no.

Note if you think it does please explain why?

[OH MY WORLD!]

I do get that some are not able to make a point with out swearing. And I get that some were taught to talk gutter by their parents. And I get that some think a dirty mouth makes them tough, makes them cool, makes them attractive. Too funny them!