The quarterly 'Is swearing bad' thread

[Ricky Spanish]

I agree with you NS. I only raised the question here because that was what was claimed in Hope's thread.

[Rhiannon]

I find swearing incredibly cathartic.

[ad_orientem]

Is swearing bad? Fuck no!

[Nearly Sane]

I agree with you NS. I only raised the question here because that was what was claimed in Hope's thread.

As noted in the thread, I was more concerned about freeing it up for Hope's actual Op

[ippy]

Quite right Thrud and why would it be ill advised?

because the judge might think that you're not treating the court with respect.

it still doesn't explain why the use of swear words is personally demeaning though

Well there you are Thrud, you've answered your own question.

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[Hope]

Is swearing 'bad'? No.  Is swearing necessary?  Usually not.  The vast majority of folk who use such words simply do so because they think they are part of everyday language - perhaps using them without even realising that they are.  In such cases, it tends to indicate a limited vocabulary.

If, they are used sparingly, though, they can be impactful - but I would still rather use more unusual non-swear words for this purpose.

[Gordon]

Moderator:

Just to say that a number of posts that were on the subject of swearing that had been posted off-topic in a thread of Hope's in the Christian Topic board have now been moved here, in response to NS having started this thread so as to avoid any further derailing of Hope's post.

As such some of the posts that are now here are earlier that NS's OP, which is now post 20 in this thread. 

[OH MY WORLD!]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

[BashfulAnthony]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

[Nearly Sane]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

  So when Chaucer wrote 'enshryne their coilins in a hogges turde' - It was because of his 'mental train wreck state'?

[BashfulAnthony]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

  So when Chaucer wrote 'enshryne their coilins in a hogges turde' - It was because of his 'mental train wreck state'?

Maybe it was: who knows!  Just because a person is a talented writer doesn't mean they behave with opprobrium:  to think so is naive.

[Nearly Sane]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

  So when Chaucer wrote 'enshryne their coilins in a hogges turde' - It was because of his 'mental train wreck state'?

Maybe it was: who knows!  Just because a person is a talented writer doesn't mean they behave with opprobrium:  to think so is naive.

You seem to be misusing opprobrium. Suggest you might mean 'behave deserving of opprobrium''.

[BashfulAnthony]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

  So when Chaucer wrote 'enshryne their coilins in a hogges turde' - It was because of his 'mental train wreck state'?

Maybe it was: who knows!  Just because a person is a talented writer doesn't mean they behave with opprobrium:  to think so is naive.

You seem to be misusing opprobrium. Suggest you might mean 'behave deserving of opprobrium''.

Mea culpa!

[Rhiannon]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

What can I say? My mother wouldn't let me swear so it comes from years of oppressed envy that the little boy next door had a penis.

[BashfulAnthony]

Oh yes, and some have to swear because it make them feel better. Like crack cocaine it doesn't solve their mental train wreck state. It hides it briefly to them but to others it highlights their mental muck.

That's about right.  They're a pitiful lot!

What can I say? My mother wouldn't let me swear so it comes from years of oppressed envy that the little boy next door had a penis.

Ever tried therapy? Penis envy is easily put in context.

[ad_orientem]

I do love it when people get all uppity about swearing.

[BashfulAnthony]

When I listen to the Queen, or the Prime Minister, or the A of C, or some prominent public figure, giving a speech littered with effing and blinding, I might see it in a different light.  I await the Queen's Speech with eagerness to see what choice words she uses!       Perhaps you foul-mouthed characters can explain why we aren't in the habit of hearing swearing by such people?

[Rhiannon]

Because there's a time and a place?

[Shaker]

Maybe it was: who knows!  Just because a person is a talented writer doesn't mean they behave with opprobrium:  to think so is naive.

You do realise that that's a use of incredibly bad language, don't you? (In the literal sense).

[Shaker]

When I listen to the Queen, or the Prime Minister, or the A of C, or some prominent public figure, giving a speech littered with effing and blinding, I might see it in a different light.  I await the Queen's Speech with eagerness to see what choice words she uses!       Perhaps you foul-mouthed characters can explain why we aren't in the habit of hearing swearing by such people?

Because - as Rhi said - there's a time and a place (context, in other words) and also partly because they are, in short, old and were probably brought up with what now seem to many (I might even say most people) rather quaint, twee ideas (such as that women shouldn't swear or be sworn in front of, etc.).

[BashfulAnthony]

Maybe it was: who knows!  Just because a person is a talented writer doesn't mean they behave with opprobrium:  to think so is naive.

You do realise that that's a use of incredibly bad language, don't you? (In the literal sense).

You're not following.  I have already acknowledged that  (post 37.

[BashfulAnthony]

Because there's a time and a place?

Rather, because there isn't a time and place.

[Shaker]

Because there's a time and a place?

Rather, because there isn't a time and place.

Of course there is. As Billy Connolly - a master of the art himself - once rightly observed, there are situations in life where "Please go away quickly" just won't do the job.

[Shaker]

I do love it when people get all uppity about swearing.

Me too 

[BashfulAnthony]

Because there's a time and a place?

Rather, because there isn't a time and place.

Of course there is. As Billy Connolly - a master of the art himself - once rightly observed, there are situations in life where "Please go away quickly" just won't do the job.

Not a good person to quote, I think.  There are other words in the extensive English language that can be much more effective in putting someone down,  always supposing you have more than a rudimentary vocabulary.