The quarterly 'Is swearing bad' thread

[Sassy]

Looking through the thread, I felt as if people were omitting the word 'offensive' which is really what the use of bad language is about.
People can get offended by the use of profane language.

To people who swear they do not find it offensive nor the people they use it in front of. A judge may swear like a trooper outside their court but would never ever use it within the court room whilst in sitting.

So bad language can be offensive. Elderly people especially, I see they find it inappropriate to use bad language.


So I think the word which may have been mentioned on page three of replies (did not read that far)  is OFFENSIVE. Some find bad language offensive when used in their presence.

[Leonard James]

As an elderly person, Sass, I don't find it in the least offensive, I just consider it unnecessary. 

ps. On occasions I swear myself, but it is never necessary to do so.

[Harrowby Hall]

Fuck off - mere vulgar abuse. It is not "swearing".

Bloody - or as usually pronounced Bleddy - is a corruption of By Our Lady. That is an oath and is therefore swearing.

The origins of expressions like Jeepers Creepers and Crikey - now regarded as harmless and suitable for use in front of children, the elderly and those of nervous dispositions are the remnants of medieval oaths and are probably, in reality, more disturbing to those who cling to the irrationalities of religion.

I did like Jeremy Thorpe's "Go forth and multiply - or some such expression."

[Nearly Sane]

Fuck off - mere vulgar abuse. It is not "swearing".

Bloody - or as usually pronounced Bleddy - is a corruption of By Our Lady. That is an oath and is therefore swearing.

The origins of expressions like Jeepers Creepers and Crikey - now regarded as harmless and suitable for use in front of children, the elderly and those of nervous dispositions are the remnants of medieval oaths and are probably, in reality, more disturbing to those who cling to the irrationalities of religion.

I did like Jeremy Thorpe's "Go forth and multiply - or some such expression."

Words changes, what used to be about oaths no longer is.

[Rhiannon]

I'm much more likely to say 'fucking hell' than I am 'Jesus Christ' for exactly the reason HH says. The latter is far more offensive, I think.

[ippy]

I'm making a claim for some goods that I've had for longer than the guarantee would cover, but if I can prove the fault was there when the goods were manufactured, I'm still covered by the sale of goods act for up to six years.

How far does anyone think I would get if I swear at the people I need to deal with, would I be more likely to get a good result swearing or not?

I will assume most would know the answer to that question; now have a think why would I be more unlikely to get a positive result if I swear.

Help yourself to all of the swearing you might wish to use, although swearing doesn't phase me in the slightest I do think generally life is far more pleasant without it.

ippy   

[ad_orientem]

I'm making a claim for some goods that I've had for longer than the guarantee would cover, but if I can prove the fault was there when the goods were manufactured, I'm still covered by the sale of goods act for up to six years.

How far does anyone think I would get if I swear at the people I need to deal with, would I be more likely to get a good result swearing or not?

I will assume most would know the answer to that question; now have a think why would I be more unlikely to get a positive result if I swear.

Help yourself to all of the swearing you might wish to use, although swearing doesn't phase me in the slightest I do think generally life is far more pleasant without it.

ippy

As others have said, context is important.

[BashfulAnthony]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

[ippy]

I'm making a claim for some goods that I've had for longer than the guarantee would cover, but if I can prove the fault was there when the goods were manufactured, I'm still covered by the sale of goods act for up to six years.

How far does anyone think I would get if I swear at the people I need to deal with, would I be more likely to get a good result swearing or not?

I will assume most would know the answer to that question; now have a think why would I be more unlikely to get a positive result if I swear.

Help yourself to all of the swearing you might wish to use, although swearing doesn't phase me in the slightest I do think generally life is far more pleasant without it.

ippy

As others have said, context is important.

Well AO, it's obvious that the others and I have got a point then.

ippy

[Ricky Spanish]

Not if you're agreeing with Floo that a person demeans themselves through the use of swear words.

[Nearly Sane]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

[BashfulAnthony]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

[Nearly Sane]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

Why is it ridiculous. I used your words and just inserted another act?

[BashfulAnthony]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

Why is it ridiculous. I used your words and just inserted another act?

Sexual acts are highly personal and private between individuals, or should be.  Swearing is specifically intended to be heard by others, as we see from the likes of you.  As I said, a stupid analogy.

[ad_orientem]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

Bollocks! Context is important. For instance in the company of friends, down the pub or watching the footy or hockey? Swearing ok. Someone acting like a cunt? Swearing ok. To annoy you? Definitely ok. At a formal occasion? Probably not, depending upon company and familiarity. At a job interview? No. You see, people are able to know when and when not too.

As a kid I loved it. Nowadays, especially of people my age, it's just part of normal speech, except for those whose heads are too far up their arses, of course.

[Nearly Sane]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

Why is it ridiculous. I used your words and just inserted another act?

Sexual acts are highly personal and private between individuals, or should be.  Swearing is specifically intended to be heard by others, as we see from the likes of you.  As I said, a stupid analogy.

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others. Dressing it up does n' t affect the analogy. You stated that if x was ever wrong, x was always wrong. I just pointed out that that logic does  not  work. Since you admit that sex has a context, you have to show that swearing dies not to disprove the analogy. And not only have you not done so, you cannot even talk about it without making it personal.

[BashfulAnthony]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

Bollocks! Context is important. For instance in the company of friends, down the pub or watching the footy or hockey? Swearing ok. Someone acting like a cunt? Swearing ok. To annoy you? Definitely ok. At a formal occasion? Probably not, depending upon company and familiarity. At a job interview? No. You see, people are able to know when and when not too.

As a kid I loved it. Nowadays, especially of people my age, it's just part of normal speech, except for those whose heads are too far up their arses, of course.

What a murky and unattractive person you must be.

[Shaker]

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others.

Well, that's a new development 

[Nearly Sane]

And just to note some of my best swearing, as with some of my most enjoyable sex acts have been carried out with no intention of someone hearing or participating in the sex act, quite often the two have been combined.

[BashfulAnthony]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

Why is it ridiculous. I used your words and just inserted another act?

Sexual acts are highly personal and private between individuals, or should be.  Swearing is specifically intended to be heard by others, as we see from the likes of you.  As I said, a stupid analogy.

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others. Dressing it up does n' t affect the analogy. You stated that if x was ever wrong, x was always wrong. I just pointed out that that logic does  not  work. Since you admit that sex has a context, you have to show that swearing dies not to disprove the analogy. And not only have you not done so, you cannot even talk about it without making it personal.

Why am I bothering to argue that being foul-mouthed is unacceptable? People like you are anathema in decent society.  Go and get a mouth wash.

[BashfulAnthony]

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others.

Well, that's a new development 

I would guess that he doesn't always have it with others!  Probably puts others off with his language.   

[Nearly Sane]

 

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

If it is ever wrong to have sex, then it always is. There are people in here who say they won't have sex in front of their children or parents etc: hypocrites!

A ridiculous analogy.  But then what would one expect from a serial swearer but any old excuse?

Why is it ridiculous. I used your words and just inserted another act?

Sexual acts are highly personal and private between individuals, or should be.  Swearing is specifically intended to be heard by others, as we see from the likes of you.  As I said, a stupid analogy.

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others. Dressing it up does n' t affect the analogy. You stated that if x was ever wrong, x was always wrong. I just pointed out that that logic does  not  work. Since you admit that sex has a context, you have to show that swearing dies not to disprove the analogy. And not only have you not done so, you cannot even talk about it without making it personal.

Why am I bothering to argue that being foul-mouthed is unacceptable? People like you are anathema in decent society.  Go and get a mouth wash.

Ah so an ad hominem fallacy, that is f a l l a c y, and no argument.

[ad_orientem]

Context my foot!  Just a lame excuse.   If it is ever wrong to swear, then it always is.  There are people in here who say they won't swear in front of their children or parents, etc:  hypocrites!

Bollocks! Context is important. For instance in the company of friends, down the pub or watching the footy or hockey? Swearing ok. Someone acting like a cunt? Swearing ok. To annoy you? Definitely ok. At a formal occasion? Probably not, depending upon company and familiarity. At a job interview? No. You see, people are able to know when and when not too.

As a kid I loved it. Nowadays, especially of people my age, it's just part of normal speech, except for those whose heads are too far up their arses, of course.

What a murky and unattractive person you must be.

Just a normal(ish) bloke. Now, just how did you get your head so far up your own arse?

http://sausedo.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/head_up_your_ass1.jpg

[Nearly Sane]

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others.

Well, that's a new development 

I would guess that he doesn't always have it with others!  Probably puts others off with his language.   

Got there before you and my line was way funnier.

[BashfulAnthony]

when I have sex, I specifically intend to have it with others.

Well, that's a new development 

I would guess that he doesn't always have it with others!  Probably puts others off with his language.   

Got there before you and my line was way funnier.

"But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man."