Searching for GOD...

[Shaker]

At least we have the capacity to understand our own problems

I should bleeding well hope so - we're the cause of most of them.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

At least we have the capacity to understand our own problems, therein lies hope ...

But we seem to have a far ''better'' ''capacity'' to ''understand'' other people's.........therein lies the problem.

[Alan Burns]

how to get the broad mass of people to set aside their greed and self-interest in the service of the greater good. That's the problem that needs solving. Crack that and so many of the others will fall of their own accord.

The solution: (From today's Mass reading)

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

[Nearly Sane]

how to get the broad mass of people to set aside their greed and self-interest in the service of the greater good. That's the problem that needs solving. Crack that and so many of the others will fall of their own accord.

The solution: (From today's Mass reading)

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

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[Shaker]

how to get the broad mass of people to set aside their greed and self-interest in the service of the greater good. That's the problem that needs solving. Crack that and so many of the others will fall of their own accord.

The solution: (From today's Mass reading)

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

That's a solution? Deary me. Did you even read my post, Alan?

[Alan Burns]

how to get the broad mass of people to set aside their greed and self-interest in the service of the greater good. That's the problem that needs solving. Crack that and so many of the others will fall of their own accord.

The solution: (From today's Mass reading)

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

That's a solution? Deary me. Did you even read my post, Alan?

It is the perfect solution.  The trouble is that we are not doing it.

 Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you

[Shaker]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

[wigginhall]

how to get the broad mass of people to set aside their greed and self-interest in the service of the greater good. That's the problem that needs solving. Crack that and so many of the others will fall of their own accord.

The solution: (From today's Mass reading)

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

That's a solution? Deary me. Did you even read my post, Alan?

It is the perfect solution.  The trouble is that we are not doing it.

 Seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you

But in the various Reformed traditions (Protestant), we cannot 'do it'.   That is, we are so paralyzed by corruption, that we cannot act.   See the discussion on our lack of 'health', in other words, our moral depravity.    I suppose as a Catholic, you don't agree with this, so we are able to use our free will to seek?

39 Articles: 'we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God'   (Article X). 

[Alan Burns]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

[Alan Burns]

But in the various Reformed traditions (Protestant), we cannot 'do it'.   That is, we are so paralyzed by corruption, that we cannot act.   See the discussion on our lack of 'health', in other words, our moral depravity.    I suppose as a Catholic, you don't agree with this, so we are able to use our free will to seek?

39 Articles: 'we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God'   (Article X).

I think the article you quote means that we do not have the power ourselves, inferring that we need to call upon God's power

Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit

[Nearly Sane]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Well either this is untrue or you are, in effect, accusing Rhiannon amongst others of lying

[Nearly Sane]

Given all this support the papist God gives to his followers the RC Church must be a beacon of good and righteousness, oh wait, it isn't, hmmm.

[wigginhall]

But in the various Reformed traditions (Protestant), we cannot 'do it'.   That is, we are so paralyzed by corruption, that we cannot act.   See the discussion on our lack of 'health', in other words, our moral depravity.    I suppose as a Catholic, you don't agree with this, so we are able to use our free will to seek?

39 Articles: 'we have no power to do good works pleasant and acceptable to God'   (Article X).

I think the article you quote means that we do not have the power ourselves, inferring that we need to call upon God's power

Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit

“There is no one righteous, not even one;
     there is no one who understands;
    there is no one who seeks God.
 All have turned away,
    they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
    not even one.”    Romans, 3: 10-12

[Shaker]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Your reading comprehension seems to have tumbled even further down the gradient than normal. The people I referred to are non-theists, Alan.

[torridon]

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

Will doing that stop people from wanting more than two children and wanting greater prosperity for their children ?

[Alan Burns]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Well either this is untrue or you are, in effect, accusing Rhiannon amongst others of lying

I have no doubt that she is telling the truth, I just hope and pray that she will not give up.  God's timing is not always what we expect.

[ippy]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Well either this is untrue or you are, in effect, accusing Rhiannon amongst others of lying

I have no doubt that she is telling the truth, I just hope and pray that she will not give up.  God's timing is not always what we expect.

Absolutely crackers.

ippy

[Alan Burns]

This, then, is what I pray, kneeling before the Father, from whom every family, whether spiritual or natural, takes its name:
Out of his infinite glory, may he give you the power through his Spirit for your hidden self to grow strong, so that Christ may live in your hearts through faith, and then, planted in love and built on love, you will with all the saints have strength to grasp the breadth and the length, the height and the depth; until, knowing the love of Christ, which is beyond all knowledge, you are filled with the utter fullness of God.

Will doing that stop people from wanting more than two children and wanting greater prosperity for their children ?

By putting our faith and trust in God, He will lead each one of us us to do what is right.   Of course, we will each be called to do different things, but together we will be one body working for the good of all.

[Nearly Sane]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Well either this is untrue or you are, in effect, accusing Rhiannon amongst others of lying

I have no doubt that she is telling the truth, I just hope and pray that she will not give up.  God's timing is not always what we expect.

So when you say seek and you will find, you then qualify it so that it is unfalsifiable.

[Alan Burns]

What "solution" do you propose for Buddhists, Jains, atheists/agnostics, non-believers generally in fact?

The same.
This solution is there for everyone.

Knock and the door will be opened, seek and you will find.

Your reading comprehension seems to have tumbled even further down the gradient than normal. The people I referred to are non-theists, Alan.

Non-theists are not immune from conversion and discovering the truth that God is real.

[Alan Burns]

So when you say seek and you will find, you then qualify it so that it is unfalsifiable.

Timing is not important.  The most important thing in anyone's life is to discover God's love, and accept Jesus as their saviour before they die. 

[Shaker]

What a sad, sad reflection on any life that would be.

[Alan Burns]

“There is no one righteous, not even one;
     there is no one who understands;
    there is no one who seeks God.
 All have turned away,
    they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
    not even one.”    Romans, 3: 10-12

Just read on a bit further:
23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.

[Alan Burns]

What a sad, sad reflection on any life that would be.

I can assure you that people who discover the truth of God's love are not sad, indeed their disposition is quite the opposite.

[ippy]

So when you say seek and you will find, you then qualify it so that it is unfalsifiable.

Timing is not important.  The most important thing in anyone's life is to discover God's love, and accept Jesus as their saviour before they die.

It might be important to you but not so much if you live in the real world, like more than 50% of the UK population do now.

Sometimes your posts look like they come from a perfectly normal person and then, like this last post of yours where you seem to have had another event and flipped your lid again.

ippy