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So you are likening people disagreeing with you on a rather small Internet forum to the Son of God being falsely accused and crucified?
It was not a disagreement, I was accused of being dishonest.
"The probability of life originating from accident is comparable to the probability of the Unabridged Dictionary resulting from an explosion in a printing factory." Edwin Conklin
I read Stephen Butterfield's review of an Alpha course, thanks for the link. We could have a whole new thread about Alpha with people relating their experiences of the course which was very fashionable at one time. Just a thought.
Unless there is a known cause, such as exposure to radiation, I don't think anyone or anything is responsible: but then again I adopt the same approach to the good stuff. It is you guys who want to praise your omni-God for the good stuff but give it an opt out for the bad stuff. This must be a non-sequitur since it seems to be a sentence with no discernible meaning.Of course, but you still have the problem of stuff that can't be attributed to humans, such as natural disasters. Don't know the details but that there were some seems likely, given what is now known about radiation, but in terms of your God you guys let him off the hook with obvious human mistakes. However, some of you guys also believe in an interventionist God so where was it when those exposed to radiation from Chernobyl started to suffer? The same as was played by Dennis the Menace, Sherlock Holmes and Holden Caulfield: that is none whatsoever, since being fictitious limits their capabilities somewhat.No idea, so why not just tell me if you think it is relevant.Mr Sheen of course.No idea, and more importantly neither have you since you can't confirm that what Christ is alleged to have said in that the relevant NT reports are all anecdotal, and where these anecdotes were only written decades later. How do you know that what Christ is alleged to have said doesn't involve the element of mistake, exaggeration or fiction? Dennis the Menace says 'if you break windows remember to run away fast': I just made that up but I'm sure you'll get my point.You've been reading too much bad fiction again.Hypothetically, of course, I'd never turn my back - but then again the notion of supernatural healing is yet more superstitious nonsense. Nope - I can recognise fictional characters quite easily, and funnily enough I mentioned this to Don Corleone when we last had lunch together.Too silly to respond to.Not quite: there are no good reason to think this God exists. The reality seems to be, sadly, that sometimes shit happens.'Hallelujah' seems like the best response to this.
Gordon.You and I, both know that the above is basically tripe from you.
If you are too lazy to give a considered and educated response then don't expect to be taken seriously in future.
Gordon.You and I, both know that the above is basically tripe from you.If you are too lazy to give a considered and educated response then don't expect to be taken seriously in future.
Right. So being accused of lying on a small Internet forum is comparable to the Son of God being falsely accused and crucified.
I have witnessed many adult conversions. You are never too old to discover God's love, Len.
Though many posters on this forum disagree with the content of my posts, most seem to recognise that I sincerely believe in what I write. So it came as a shock to be accused of being the most dishonest poster on this forum. The parallel I drew with Jesus is in what I believe to be the ultimate source to motivate such a false accusation.
I don't think anybody here believes you are dishonest, Alan.I think Wiggy meant that you are unable to see the truth of the arguments put to you sometimes.
Seems a bit of a leap to interpret a post of wigginhall's that says he sees Alan as one of the most dishonest posters in that way.
Perhaps I worded it badly. Wiggs probably thinks Alan realises the truth of arguments put to him but steadfastly refuses to admit it.
I think if you read wigginhall's post it is still stronger than that he argues that Alan is using specifically dishonest tactics.
Well, recognising an argument as true but still not admitting it IS a dishonest tactic.Only Alan can know what the truth is.
If I did not believe in what I post, I would not be posting on this forum. I can see the logic of arguments used to disagree with me, but to me it is false logic which can does not relate to true reality. As I have implied on numerous occasions, I just want to reveal the truth as I know it to other people.
On what premise do you consider the logic 'false', Alan? How does it not relate to reality?
Abiogenesis could not occur in this hostile environment without intelligently guided intervention.
The gradual development of life is entirely dependent on billions of beneficial mutations being generated by inherently destructive random forces, which would not occur without intelligently guided intervention.
The existence of human free will aptly demonstrates that intelligently guided intervention does occur and this universe is not entirely deterministic.
Conscious awareness in humans defies any materialistic description.
We are all living miracles.
Abiogenesis could not occur in this hostile environment without intelligently guided intervention.The gradual development of life is entirely dependent on billions of beneficial mutations being generated by inherently destructive random forces, which would not occur without intelligently guided intervention.The existence of human free will aptly demonstrates that intelligently guided intervention does occur and this universe is not entirely deterministic.Conscious awareness in humans defies any materialistic description.We are all living miracles.
