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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #11250 on: March 14, 2016, 11:23:07 AM »
No, Alan, these quotes show that we are capable of inventing the most bizarre ideas to give voice to what we feel. There is absolutely no evidence for "divine inspiration", but plenty of evidence that some humans are capable of inspired writing and lofty ideals.

Sadly that in no way negates the fact that we are nothing more than bags of interacting chemicals.  :(
I think I'd substitute the word 'happily' for 'sadly', since I am absolutely delighted to be the bag of chemicals I am ... for a few years longer anyway! :d
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« Reply #11251 on: March 14, 2016, 11:31:48 AM »

All will become clear when we reach our spiritual home.
Is our 'spiritual home' part of this universe?
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« Reply #11252 on: March 14, 2016, 11:32:22 AM »
We are literally surrounded by the evidence of God's creation, but many of us seem to take it all for granted, assuming it all to be natural.

Another baseless assertion. We are surrounded by what you call "creation" but I see no evidence that any god had anything to do with it.
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« Reply #11253 on: March 14, 2016, 11:45:05 AM »
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We are literally surrounded by the evidence of God's creation

Oh look! we agree on something, must be one of those red letter days, actually it is a great day, on this day 57 years ago a genius was born :P also, wait for it.................. on this day in 1879 another genius was born ( I am probably the reincarnation of wee Albert, must ask Sriram about that ::) ) and, and!! it is also pi day, not pie but pi, why! I hear you ask, well 3.14, third month and the fourteenth day, clever or what ??? ( wonder what kind of mind thought that gem up ).

More good news, the tax man remembered my birthday ;D a nice wee cheque, no card though, ah well! it's the thought that counts ( no it's not Gonnagle, it's the cheque you worshipper of Mammon ).

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« Reply #11254 on: March 14, 2016, 11:52:48 AM »
Dear Alan,

Oh look! we agree on something, must be one of those red letter days, actually it is a great day, on this day 57 years ago a genius was born :P also, wait for it.................. on this day in 1879 another genius was born ( I am probably the reincarnation of wee Albert, must ask Sriram about that ::) ) and, and!! it is also pi day, not pie but pi, why! I hear you ask, well 3.14, third month and the fourteenth day, clever or what ??? ( wonder what kind of mind thought that gem up ).

More good news, the tax man remembered my birthday ;D a nice wee cheque, no card though, ah well! it's the thought that counts ( no it's not Gonnagle, it's the cheque you worshipper of Mammon ).



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Happy birthday.

But how is it evidence of God's creation. I look around and see the world. Full stop, no God. How would a world that was not created by a God look different?

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« Reply #11255 on: March 14, 2016, 11:54:15 AM »
I look around and see the world. Full stop, no God. How would a world that was not created by a God look different?

Very good question. It's the same question I pose with regard to supposed answers to petitionary prayer - how do you tell the difference?
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« Reply #11256 on: March 14, 2016, 11:56:53 AM »
Dear Stephen,

It is a mindset, you would have to crawl inside my mind and see the world through my eyes, I see God everywhere :o :o

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« Reply #11257 on: March 14, 2016, 11:59:02 AM »
Dear Stephen,

It is a mindset, you would have to crawl inside my mind and see the world through my eyes, I see God everywhere :o :o

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I'd rather not if you don't mind :)

Sounds a bit like the boy in Sixth Sense.


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« Reply #11258 on: March 14, 2016, 12:01:07 PM »
Very good question. It's the same question I pose with regard to supposed answers to petitionary prayer - how do you tell the difference?

By the way, Darkness Visible has just dropped through the letter box. I will read it over lunch.

That got here quick. All those people working on a Sunday  ::)

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« Reply #11259 on: March 14, 2016, 12:09:55 PM »
Dear Stephen,

It is a mindset, you would have to crawl inside my mind and see the world through my eyes, I see God everywhere :o :o

Gonnagle.

Actually maybe a was too dismissive in my earlier reply. I have joined in order to better understand. You say you see God everywhere, presumably you have seen him today? Would it be too much trouble to give me an example?

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Stephen

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« Reply #11260 on: March 14, 2016, 12:17:52 PM »
Dear Stephen,

 
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Would it be too much trouble to give me an example?

Right now, as I type this, the sun is shining, ( Thank you God ) but hold on, haud the bus, another example of God, your post, reminding me that I should thank him/her/it more often ;)

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« Reply #11261 on: March 14, 2016, 12:19:17 PM »
By the way, Darkness Visible has just dropped through the letter box. I will read it over lunch.

That got here quick. All those people working on a Sunday  ::)
How awful  ;)
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« Reply #11262 on: March 14, 2016, 12:21:23 PM »
Dear Stephen,

 
Right now, as I type this, the sun is shining, ( Thank you God ) but hold on, haud the bus, another example of God, your post, reminding me that I should thank him/her/it more often ;)

Gonnagle.

Genuine question: given how much we know about the proton-proton chain, the CNO cycle, the fusion of hydrogen into helium and what have you, what is it about the phenomenon of our local star doing its starry business that has you tacking God onto the process?
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« Reply #11263 on: March 14, 2016, 12:27:25 PM »
Genuine question: given how much we know about the proton-proton chain, the CNO cycle, the fusion of hydrogen into helium and what have you, what is it about the phenomenon of our local star doing its starry business that has you tacking God onto the process?
I think he might mean that in Glasgow, it is a genuine bona-fide actual miracle, if you can actually see the sun!  :o
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« Reply #11264 on: March 14, 2016, 12:48:07 PM »
Dear Stephen,

It is a mindset, you would have to crawl inside my mind and see the world through my eyes, I see God everywhere :o :o

Gonnagle.

Which god is that, Gonners?

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« Reply #11265 on: March 14, 2016, 12:51:34 PM »
Dear Shaker,

Genuine answer, how much we know!!

http://www.astrophysicsspectator.com/topics/stars/FusionHydrogen.html

Now if you understand all that, you're a better man than me Gunga Din, but the point is that it works, it all works, the Universe gave birth to life, it didn't have to, but it did.

Evolution is another example, I am no expert, but what I do know, every living organism strives to survive, it's that striving that tells me there is more to it, every living thing strives.

What we know is very little, what I know, this Universe works and it works for a reason, it is no accident.

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I think he might mean that in Glasgow, it is a genuine bona-fide actual miracle, if you can actually see the sun!  :o

A mini miracle, but still a miracle ;)

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Which god is that, Gonners?

There is only one God, many names, but only one God.

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« Reply #11266 on: March 14, 2016, 12:53:15 PM »
Dear Stephen,

 
Right now, as I type this, the sun is shining, ( Thank you God ) but hold on, haud the bus, another example of God, your post, reminding me that I should thank him/her/it more often ;)

Gonnagle.

Make sure you make the most of the sunshine. Lovely down here are well.

I just had a lovely glass of Mango juice. I didn't see God in it but I suppose you would think that he was there somehow?

I didn't thank God for it but I will thank my wife later as it was she who bought it.

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« Reply #11267 on: March 14, 2016, 12:53:53 PM »
That suggests another question: why only one god? Why not two? Or eighteen? Or four hundred and thirty six?

If you're going to posit such an entity, I don't understand the logic of limiting it to just the one when it could be any number.
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« Reply #11268 on: March 14, 2016, 12:58:53 PM »

Dear Leonard,

There is only one God, many names, but only one God.

Gonnagle.

You are clearly party to information the rest of us don't have. Tell us about this 'only one god'.

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« Reply #11269 on: March 14, 2016, 01:02:48 PM »
Dear Shaker,

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That suggests another question: why only one god? Why not two? Or eighteen? Or four hundred and thirty six?

If you're going to posit such an entity, I don't understand the logic of limiting it to just the one when it could be any number.

No that suggests human thinking, but that's okay, your posts show that you are very human.

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« Reply #11270 on: March 14, 2016, 01:11:06 PM »
Human thinking is all I know about and the only thing I know of to use. What else would there be?
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« Reply #11271 on: March 14, 2016, 01:11:27 PM »
Dear Leonard,

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You are clearly party to information the rest of us don't have. Tell us about this 'only one god'.

No we are all party to the same information, it is how we choose to interpretate interpret :o that information that makes us different.

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« Reply #11272 on: March 14, 2016, 01:14:59 PM »
Dear Leonard,

No we are all party to the same information, it is how we choose to interpretate interpret :o that information that makes us different.

Gonnagle.


How do you choose to interpret information?

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« Reply #11273 on: March 14, 2016, 01:19:26 PM »
Dear Shaker,

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Human thinking is all I know about and the only thing I know of to use. What else would there be?

Yes, of course, you are human so you use human thinking?

Since the dawn of time, volcano erupts, that's the volcano God, thunder, that must be Thor, storm at sea, Poseidon.

Human thinking.

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« Reply #11274 on: March 14, 2016, 01:24:17 PM »
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How do you choose to interpret information?

Same as you, only I have a God spot, you don't, even though you have a spiritual side and religious, which makes me wonder why you dismiss any notion of God.

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