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[Nearly Sane]

The brain guides our thoughts as it does in animals, we are just a little farther along the evolutionary process that is all.

There is no such thing as 'farther along the evolutionary process'

[Leonard James]

There is no such thing as 'farther along the evolutionary path'

I think Floo means that the ability has evolved more in humans than any other animals.

[Nearly Sane]

I think Floo means that the ability has evolved more in humans than any other animals.

'evolved more' doesn't make any sense there either.

[Leonard James]

'evolved more' doesn't make any sense there either.

What expression would you use to describe the fact that an ability (sight, hearing, etc.) is greater in some species than in others?

[Nearly Sane]

What expression would you use to describe the fact that an ability (sight, hearing, etc.) is greater in some species than in others?

Simply that. No need to look on something as more or less evolved.

[floo]

'evolved more' doesn't make any sense there either.

Why?

[Leonard James]

Simply that. No need to look on something as more or less evolved.

I'm afraid you are just nitpicking, NS. If any given ability is greater in one species than another, it can only have come about by evolution ... hence it has evolved more.

[Nearly Sane]

I'm afraid you are just nitpicking, NS. If any given ability is greater in one species than another, it can only have come about by evolution ... hence it has evolved more.

It has evolved differently not more. You and Floo are showing a basic misunderstanding of evolution, and one that Floo makes repeatedly.

[floo]

I'm afraid you are just nitpicking, NS. If any given ability is greater in one species than another, it can only have come about by evolution ... hence it has evolved more.

That is what I think, but of course I am not a scientist, is NS?

[Leonard James]

It has evolved differently not more. You and Floo are showing a basic misunderstanding of evolution, and one that Floo makes repeatedly.

The "difference" being that it has evolved to be stronger. It is in no way a misunderstanding on our part, it is simply that you don't like the way it's expressed. i.e. you are nitpicking.

[SusanDoris]

It has evolved differently not more. You and Floo are showing a basic misunderstanding of evolution, and one that Floo makes repeatedly.

I was just about to post and say 'evolved differently' after #12249 but luckily waited until I'd gone to next page ...!


ETA: We like to think of ourselves as having evolved more strongly etc, but in fact only time will tell whether the way we are now, with, we hope, adaptable traits will enable  our species to continue surviving.


I've been re-constructing that sentence a dozen times - I hope it is correct, at least grammatically!!

[Leonard James]

That is what I think, but of course I am not a scientist, is NS?

I don't know, but although he is better informed than either you or I on the subject of evolution, I think he is too keen on pointing it out sometimes. 

[floo]

I don't know, but although he is better informed than either you or I on the subject of evolution, I think he is too keen on pointing it out sometimes. 

Oh well I am just a daft old bat so what do I know?

[Leonard James]

Oh well I am just a daft old bat so what do I know?

It's alright, dear, join the club ... you are in good company! 

[floo]

It's alright, dear, join the club ... you are in good company! 

If I am as with it as you when I get to your very great age, I will be a very lucky girl.

[Leonard James]

I was just about to post and say 'evolved differently' after #12249 but luckily waited until I'd gone to next page ...!


ETA: We like to think of ourselves as having evolved more strongly etc, but in fact only time will tell whether the way we are now, with, we hope, adaptable traits will enable  our species to continue surviving.


I've been re-constructing that sentence a dozen times - I hope it is correct, at least grammatically!!

Hi Susan,

The fact that the evolutionary process develops more acute sight, hearing, etc., in some species compared to that of others is a difficult thing to describe without using the verbs develop/evolve.

However, I don't think it is important. 

[BeRational]

Evolved more implies a direction which there is not.

For example are we more evolved than hawks?

Clearly not as our eyesight is inferior so they are more evolved than us.

Every living thing on the planet is equally evolved to fit it's environment, which is exactly what you would expect.

[Alan Burns]

The brain guides our thoughts as it does in animals, we are just a little farther along the evolutionary process that is all.

Do animals think?
I have not come across any evidence that they have thoughts like humans do - they just react.

[floo]

Do animals think?
I have not come across any evidence that they think in the way humans do - they just react.

Some dogs seem to be able to think.

[Leonard James]

Evolved more implies a direction which there is not.

For example are we more evolved than hawks?

Clearly not as our eyesight is inferior so they are more evolved than us.

Every living thing on the planet is equally evolved to fit it's environment, which is exactly what you would expect.

Agreed when referring to any given species. But when you are referring to a particular ability of that species, like hawk/human sight, it is obvious that the hawk has developed it to a far greater degree of accuracy than the human has ... and it did it by the process of evolution.

[Leonard James]

Do animals think?
I have not come across any evidence that they have thoughts like humans do - they just react.

If you have ever had a dog and played ball with it, you would realise how wrong you are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04lpt5LiMb8

[floo]

A dog appears to know how to suck up to its owner to get a treat etc, which is more than just reacting, imo.

[ippy]

Do animals think?
I have not come across any evidence that they have thoughts like humans do - they just react.

Chimps have been found to have empathy with their fellows, unlike the assertions you keep coming out with, it's a proven fact.

ippy

[ekim]

Chimps have been found to have empathy with their fellows, unlike the assertions you keep coming out with, it's a proven fact.

ippy

Ah, but chimps can't employ the scientific method .... wait a minute, on second thoughts .... there are some Christians like that.

[BeRational]

Agreed when referring to any given species. But when you are referring to a particular ability of that species, like hawk/human sight, it is obvious that the hawk has developed it to a far greater degree of accuracy than the human has ... and it did it by the process of evolution.

Exactly right yes.
It did so as eyesight was advantageous to its survival.
We evolved differently for ours but have we evolved more?
More than what would be the question