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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #19300 on: July 04, 2017, 07:16:42 PM »
If what you were trying to say was something intelligible then I regret to say you've failed.
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« Reply #19301 on: July 04, 2017, 07:19:04 PM »
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« Reply #19302 on: July 04, 2017, 08:44:29 PM »
Spud,

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Burning a witch was part of the system put in place by God to ensure that the promise of a Saviour was fulfilled.

Fuck me.

Apart from the two above, words almost fail me. There really are people walking among us who believe this kind of crap in a basket. Where would you even begin to educate someone that lost to reason and decency?

Where though?   
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« Reply #19303 on: July 04, 2017, 09:05:54 PM »
Spud,

Fuck me.

Apart from the two above, words almost fail me. There really are people walking among us who believe this kind of crap in a basket. Where would you even begin to educate someone that lost to reason and decency?

Where though?
I await people who are theist and Christian telling Spud he is wrong. Otherwise they support killing 'witches'.  So on you go Christians, up to you!!!!

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« Reply #19304 on: July 04, 2017, 09:26:57 PM »
Burning a witch was part of the system put in place by God to ensure that the promise of a Saviour was fulfilled.
Well. That makes it ok then. Any hints as to what should be done with witches now?
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« Reply #19305 on: July 04, 2017, 10:09:15 PM »
I await people who are theist and Christian telling Spud he is wrong. Otherwise they support killing 'witches'.  So on you go Christians, up to you!!!!
Killing witches?......I'm an ASB 1980 man....Nothing to do with me.,,,,There are reports of witch killing in Africa which I have no reason to doubt.
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« Reply #19306 on: July 04, 2017, 10:14:30 PM »
Killing witches?......I'm an ASB 1980 man....Nothing to do with me.,,,,There are reports of witch killing in Africa which I have no reason to doubt.
Do you support Spud's statement that
"Burning a witch was part of the system put in place by God to ensure that the promise of a Saviour was fulfilled. " ?
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« Reply #19307 on: July 04, 2017, 10:26:37 PM »
Do you support Spud's statement that
"Burning a witch was part of the system put in place by God to ensure that the promise of a Saviour was fulfilled. " ?
I'm not going to take part in some ridiculous trial with you as some pocket Torquemada.
You are stupid to even suggest such a thing.  Potty!

As far as I know most witch burnings happened late 16th century first half of 17th century.

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« Reply #19308 on: July 04, 2017, 10:29:25 PM »
Fallacy Boy,

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I'm not going to take part in some ridiculous trial with you as some pocket Torquemada.
You are stupid to even suggest such a thing.  Potty!

As far as I know most witch burnings happened late 16th century first half of 17th century.

But that has nothing to do with the question. Do you agree with Spud or not?
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« Reply #19309 on: July 04, 2017, 10:31:34 PM »
Fallacy Boy,

But that has nothing to do with the question. Do you agree with Spud or not?
You must know by now I don't respond to this sort of thing.

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« Reply #19310 on: July 04, 2017, 10:35:13 PM »
Fallacy Boy,

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You must know by now I don't respond to this sort of thing.

What I know is that you don't respond to any "sort of thing", though you seem keen to demand answers from others.

It's a simple enough question though isn't it? Why not benefit us with a simple yes or no?
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« Reply #19311 on: July 04, 2017, 10:44:37 PM »
Fallacy Boy,

What I know is that you don't respond to any "sort of thing", though you seem keen to demand answers from others.

It's a simple enough question though isn't it? Why not benefit us with a simple yes or no?
Again, having grown men, seriously ask whether one supports burning witches at half past ten in the 21st century
is Bizarro to say the least. Honouring it an actual answer is feeding the beast don't you think?

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #19312 on: July 04, 2017, 10:49:37 PM »
Fallacy Boy,

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Again, having grown men, seriously ask whether one supports burning witches at half past ten in the 21st century
is Bizarro to say the least. Honouring it an actual answer is feeding the beast don't you think?

That wasn't the question though. Spud told us that burning witches when it did happen was "God's plan" or some such. I just asked whether you agree with him.

I still don't know the answer. 
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God

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #19313 on: July 04, 2017, 11:27:56 PM »
I'm not going to take part in some ridiculous trial with you as some pocket Torquemada.
You are stupid to even suggest such a thing.  Potty!

As far as I know most witch burnings happened late 16th century first half of 17th century.
I'm not asking if you support the burning of witches now or in the past. In fact I'm fairly certain that you don't.
I was asking if you support Spud's statement regarding a 'plan'.
Either you do or you don't.
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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #19314 on: July 05, 2017, 06:13:59 AM »
Killing witches?......I'm an ASB 1980 man....Nothing to do with me.,,,,There are reports of witch killing in Africa which I have no reason to doubt.
So I take it you think that Spud is a mad loon?

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« Reply #19315 on: July 05, 2017, 08:01:18 AM »
So I take it you think that Spud is a mad loon?
1: I don't read Spud as advocating witch burning.
2: I don't read Spud as saying burning witches as part and parcel of the New testament.
3: I believe Spud is talking about Old Testament accounts, in which case I think we are reading politico-religious works in which a group of people involved in whatever the Hebrew word we translate as witchcraft are seen as a national threat. The Isrealites had a particular view of what that was and how it was to be dealt with.
4: In terms of Gods Plan Christians have varied views on what that is. Is being a witch part of God's plan?
My own view is that evil is not part of God's plan and, as I've said, since man has followed in part evil paths and God's plan is to work with and around people, there are greater and lesser evil.

Was it wrong for Israel to execute witches?, was it right for the US to execute the Rosenburgs?, or for Bomber command to bomb the crap out of the Germans? What is the lesser of two evils? were the Tudors correct in executing Heretics? Was Stalin right to purge his military?

In terms of witch burning at the beginning of the modern age I'm informed that these were locally carried out....although today witch burning by the Parish Council is only the Stuff of Midsomer Murders.
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« Reply #19316 on: July 05, 2017, 08:07:33 AM »
So witches and witchcraft are evil. How Middle Ages of you.

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« Reply #19317 on: July 05, 2017, 08:13:07 AM »
So witches and witchcraft are evil. How Middle Ages of you.
In as much as much and so far as they are antichrist.
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« Reply #19318 on: July 05, 2017, 08:14:35 AM »
In as much as they are antichrist obviously.

That's a joke, right?

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« Reply #19319 on: July 05, 2017, 08:20:22 AM »
Vlad

But you still haven't answered the question about whether it was God's plan.
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« Reply #19320 on: July 05, 2017, 08:29:52 AM »
That's a joke, right?
If you look at my posts I am Christian I believe all have fallen short. All are in some measure and at some times antichrist. Theologically speaking that ''antichrist'' is defined as evil. You are a theology student are you not you should know this stuff. Secondly I believe that religiously people should move from paganism to Christ. 

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« Reply #19321 on: July 05, 2017, 08:32:49 AM »
Vlad

But you still haven't answered the question about whether it was God's plan.
It's all in my post to Nearly Sane.

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« Reply #19322 on: July 05, 2017, 08:36:42 AM »
If you look at my posts I am Christian I believe all have fallen short. All are in some measure and at some times antichrist. Theologically speaking that ''antichrist'' is defined as evil. You are a theology student are you not you should know this stuff. Secondly I believe that religiously people should move from paganism to Christ.

Your understanding of theology is very different to mind ever was. Antichrist? Ffs.

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« Reply #19323 on: July 05, 2017, 08:42:50 AM »
1: I don't read Spud as advocating witch burning.
2: I don't read Spud as saying burning witches as part and parcel of the New testament.
3: I believe Spud is talking about Old Testament accounts, in which case I think we are reading politico-religious works in which a group of people involved in whatever the Hebrew word we translate as witchcraft are seen as a national threat. The Isrealites had a particular view of what that was and how it was to be dealt with.
4: In terms of Gods Plan Christians have varied views on what that is. Is being a witch part of God's plan?
My own view is that evil is not part of God's plan and, as I've said, since man has followed in part evil paths and God's plan is to work with and around people, there are greater and lesser evil.

Was it wrong for Israel to execute witches?, was it right for the US to execute the Rosenburgs?, or for Bomber command to bomb the crap out of the Germans? What is the lesser of two evils? were the Tudors correct in executing Heretics? Was Stalin right to purge his military?

In terms of witch burning at the beginning of the modern age I'm informed that these were locally carried out....although today witch burning by the Parish Council is only the Stuff of Midsomer Murders.
Don't look at the Christian saying killing witches was fine, look over there, or over there, look lots of words and none of them about the Christian saying burning witches was God's plan, oops, well some but Stalin and cheese and Enery the Heighth and is that enough words for you to have forgotten the Christian saying 'witches', ignoring that they weren't any such thing, being murdered by Christians was all part of God's plan.
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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #19324 on: July 05, 2017, 08:43:18 AM »
Your understanding of theology is very different to mind ever was. Antichrist? Ffs.
The suggestion that one's self and affilitions might not be going in the direction of Christ is often taken with offence.