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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23975 on: November 09, 2017, 06:38:14 PM »
Which is, of course bluehillshite!

Lack of answers cannot be used as an excuse for your inability to understand them, or your ignorance in failing to educate yourself so you can be in a position to answer them.
Well lack of answers would be justifiable as a reason for saying there ate no answers. You seem confused.

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23976 on: November 12, 2017, 01:34:39 PM »
Sword,

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Which is, of course bluehillshite!

No, its true. Not only does he never answer questions (while demanding that others answer his by the way) but he never tells us why he won’t answer them either. It’s standard trolling 101.

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Lack of answers cannot be used as an excuse for your inability to understand them, or your ignorance in failing to educate yourself so you can be in a position to answer them.

How can you fail to understand or be too uneducated to answer something someone refuses to provide in the first place?

Care to try again?

(Oh, and as you just disappeared again last time perhaps too you could tell us now about these “special properties of truth” you asserted and then abandoned.)
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« Reply #23977 on: November 12, 2017, 01:37:54 PM »
Which is, of course bluehillshite!

Lack of answers cannot be used as an excuse for your inability to understand them, or your ignorance in failing to educate yourself so you can be in a position to answer them.

Um ... if there are no answers then how can anyone understand them? Badly worded post or an inability to understand what was being said?

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23978 on: November 12, 2017, 02:36:41 PM »


Lack of answers cannot be used as an excuse for your inability to understand them, or your ignorance in failing to educate yourself so you can be in a position to answer them.
Which is of course ShiteOfTheSpirit.
Anyway I'm not going to give you an answer detailing the reasons as to how wrong you are ... but

You cannot use the lack of an answer as an excuse for your inability to understand the reasons or your ignorance in failing to educate yourself so you can be in a position to answer those reasons.
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« Reply #23979 on: November 12, 2017, 02:40:08 PM »
You know, I do like it when Sots pops in to give us the benefit of his wisdom - or something - because the responses are always so interesting to read. :)
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« Reply #23980 on: November 12, 2017, 03:51:09 PM »
You know, I do like it when Sots pops in to give us the benefit of his wisdom - or something - because the responses are always so interesting to read. :)

Yes some people like SOTS, can be so deep, well informed, thoughtful and there are also many that think as much!

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« Reply #23981 on: November 18, 2017, 11:42:18 AM »
In yesterday's Mass reading from the aptly named book of Wisdom, chapter 13:

Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God
and who, from the good things that are seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is,
or, by studying the works, have failed to recognise the Artificer. .......

.... living among his works, they strive to comprehend them
and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty.
Even so, they are not to be excused:
if they are capable of acquiring enough knowledge
to be able to investigate the world,
how have they been so slow to find its Master?


How profound are these words written thousands of years ago, yet so applicable to the modern day.  You will not discover God in the minutia of human scientific investigation which leads so many to believe in the false God which brings us into existence from nothing.  God lives in the depth of our innermost being  - in that spiritual awareness which defies any material definition or description.  The same God which inspired these words from psalm 63:

O God, you are my God, for you I long;
for you my soul is thirsting.
My body pines for you
like a dry, weary land without water.
So I gaze on you in the sanctuary,
to see your strength and your glory.
 
For your love is better than life,
my lips will speak your praise.
So I will bless you all my life,
in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul shall be filled as with a banquet,
my mouth shall praise you with joy.
 
On my bed I remember you.
On you I muse through the night
For you have been my help.
In the shadow of your wings I rejoice.
My soul clings to you;
your right hand holds me fast. 


So as my knowledge and awareness of God grows deeper every day, I rejoice in the joy of His presence, and continue to hope and pray for all those who have not yet found God in their lives.
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« Reply #23982 on: November 18, 2017, 11:46:18 AM »
I had muesli with a banana for breakfast.
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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23983 on: November 18, 2017, 11:48:06 AM »
Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God...

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How profound are these words written thousands of years ago, yet so applicable to the modern day.

Yeah, calling people who don't agree with you "stupid" is so very profound....

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« Reply #23984 on: November 18, 2017, 12:02:37 PM »
I had muesli with a banana for breakfast.

I had some Dali flakes today, they were surreal!
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« Reply #23985 on: November 18, 2017, 12:27:52 PM »
In yesterday's Mass reading from the aptly named book of Wisdom, chapter 13:

Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God
and who, from the good things that are seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is,
or, by studying the works, have failed to recognise the Artificer. .......

.... living among his works, they strive to comprehend them
and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty.
Even so, they are not to be excused:
if they are capable of acquiring enough knowledge
to be able to investigate the world,
how have they been so slow to find its Master?


How profound are these words written thousands of years ago, yet so applicable to the modern day.  You will not discover God in the minutia of human scientific investigation which leads so many to believe in the false God which brings us into existence from nothing.  God lives in the depth of our innermost being  - in that spiritual awareness which defies any material definition or description.  The same God which inspired these words from psalm 63:

O God, you are my God, for you I long;
for you my soul is thirsting.
My body pines for you
like a dry, weary land without water.
So I gaze on you in the sanctuary,
to see your strength and your glory.
 
For your love is better than life,
my lips will speak your praise.
So I will bless you all my life,
in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul shall be filled as with a banquet,
my mouth shall praise you with joy.
 
On my bed I remember you.
On you I muse through the night
For you have been my help.
In the shadow of your wings I rejoice.
My soul clings to you;
your right hand holds me fast. 


So as my knowledge and awareness of God grows deeper every day, I rejoice in the joy of His presence, and continue to hope and pray for all those who have not yet found God in their lives.
sounds like the rantings and  longings of a sex  deprived pervert to me.

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« Reply #23986 on: November 18, 2017, 12:46:09 PM »
sounds like the rantings and  longings of a sex  deprived pervert to me.
You're not massively wide of the mark. The links between religious ecstasy and sexual ecstasy have a long pedigree and are well known. The accounts of St Teresa of Avila make an interesting read.
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« Reply #23987 on: November 18, 2017, 01:21:56 PM »
I had muesli with a banana for breakfast.
I went out to coffie with a friend/neighbour to one of the local garden centres this morning.
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« Reply #23988 on: November 18, 2017, 01:25:29 PM »
In yesterday's Mass reading from the aptly named book of Wisdom, chapter 13:

Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God
and who, from the good things that are seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is,
or, by studying the works, have failed to recognise the Artificer. .......

.... living among his works, they strive to comprehend them
and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty.
Even so, they are not to be excused:
if they are capable of acquiring enough knowledge
to be able to investigate the world,
how have they been so slow to find its Master?


How profound are these words written thousands of years ago, yet so applicable to the modern day.  You will not discover God in the minutia of human scientific investigation which leads so many to believe in the false God which brings us into existence from nothing.  God lives in the depth of our innermost being  - in that spiritual awareness which defies any material definition or description.  The same God which inspired these words from psalm 63:

O God, you are my God, for you I long;
for you my soul is thirsting.
My body pines for you
like a dry, weary land without water.
So I gaze on you in the sanctuary,
to see your strength and your glory.
 
For your love is better than life,
my lips will speak your praise.
So I will bless you all my life,
in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul shall be filled as with a banquet,
my mouth shall praise you with joy.
 
On my bed I remember you.
On you I muse through the night
For you have been my help.
In the shadow of your wings I rejoice.
My soul clings to you;
your right hand holds me fast. 


So as my knowledge and awareness of God grows deeper every day, I rejoice in the joy of His presence, and continue to hope and pray for all those who have not yet found God in their lives.

One could argue that those who don't question whether the Biblical god actually exists are the stupid ones, as its portrayal is much less than credible.

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23989 on: November 18, 2017, 01:50:00 PM »
I went out to coffie with a friend/neighbour to one of the local garden centres this morning.
I know , I saw you ;)

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« Reply #23990 on: November 18, 2017, 01:50:53 PM »
You're not massively wide of the mark. The links between religious ecstasy and sexual ecstasy have a long pedigree and are well known. The accounts of St Teresa of Avila make an interesting read.
thanks Shakes , ill look that up.

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« Reply #23991 on: November 18, 2017, 02:59:50 PM »
Alan,

I watched and listened to Mahalia Jackson singing 'Take My Hand, Precious Lord' last night on one of the BBC channels. She happens to be one of my favourite singers and I've seen this recording before. However I'd just like to comment on her absolute sincerity and honesty, her powerful presence, her magnificent voice, her ability to communicate her unbounded joy in her faith. It moved me, it didn't convert me but it moved me as it always does.

And then I come to your latest pitiful attempt at proselytizing, with its insults, its total lack of respect or even understanding of the views of others, its attempts at belittlement, its expressions of so called profundity, its highly questionable assumptions and faint aura of smugness and complacency. At least you have the good grace and decency to insert a psalm which expresses sincerity and faith in powerful language without demeaning itself with any condemnation of others.

I'm afraid I find your approach so sadly lacking, Alan. :)
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« Reply #23992 on: November 18, 2017, 03:02:33 PM »
In yesterday's Mass reading from the aptly named book of Wisdom, chapter 13:

Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God
and who, from the good things that are seen, have not been able to discover Him-who-is,
or, by studying the works, have failed to recognise the Artificer. .......

.... living among his works, they strive to comprehend them
and fall victim to appearances, seeing so much beauty.
Even so, they are not to be excused:
if they are capable of acquiring enough knowledge
to be able to investigate the world,
how have they been so slow to find its Master?


How profound are these words written thousands of years ago, yet so applicable to the modern day.  You will not discover God in the minutia of human scientific investigation which leads so many to believe in the false God which brings us into existence from nothing.  God lives in the depth of our innermost being  - in that spiritual awareness which defies any material definition or description.  The same God which inspired these words from psalm 63:

O God, you are my God, for you I long;
for you my soul is thirsting.
My body pines for you
like a dry, weary land without water.
So I gaze on you in the sanctuary,
to see your strength and your glory.
 
For your love is better than life,
my lips will speak your praise.
So I will bless you all my life,
in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul shall be filled as with a banquet,
my mouth shall praise you with joy.
 
On my bed I remember you.
On you I muse through the night
For you have been my help.
In the shadow of your wings I rejoice.
My soul clings to you;
your right hand holds me fast. 


So as my knowledge and awareness of God grows deeper every day, I rejoice in the joy of His presence, and continue to hope and pray for all those who have not yet found God in their lives.

Desperate.

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« Reply #23993 on: November 18, 2017, 03:10:39 PM »
Desperate.
sums it up perfectly in one word , wish I'd thought of it .

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« Reply #23994 on: November 18, 2017, 03:27:06 PM »
So Alan sat in Mass yesterday and heard something about the stupidity of unbelievers and thought yes, that’ll get those pesky atheists on R&E to see things my way.

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« Reply #23995 on: November 18, 2017, 05:08:49 PM »
Desperate.

AB's post do appear as if he is trying to convince himself his version of god is for real. ::)

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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23996 on: November 18, 2017, 05:13:07 PM »
AB,

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Naturally stupid are all men who have not known God…

Naturally stupid is someone who believes that something must be true because it’s written in an old book.

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O God, you are my God, for you I long;
for you my soul is thirsting.
My body pines for you
like a dry, weary land without water.
So I gaze on you in the sanctuary,
to see your strength and your glory.
 
For your love is better than life,
my lips will speak your praise.
So I will bless you all my life,
in your name I will lift up my hands.
My soul shall be filled as with a banquet,
my mouth shall praise you with joy.
 
On my bed I remember you.
On you I muse through the night
For you have been my help.
In the shadow of your wings I rejoice.
My soul clings to you;
your right hand holds me fast. 


If that kind of self-abasing and frankly embarrassing pap floats your canoe, knock yourself out. For the love of Colin the Leprechaun though, please don’t inflict it on children. 
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Re: Searching for GOD...
« Reply #23997 on: November 18, 2017, 08:46:07 PM »
Which is, of course bluehillshite!

Agreed, although sometimes I refuse to answer whenever I feel someone has gone into Budget Torquemada mode.

Good to see you in action once again Sword.

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« Reply #23998 on: November 18, 2017, 10:15:33 PM »
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Agreed, although sometimes I refuse to answer whenever I feel someone has gone into Budget Torquemada mode.

Good to see you in action once again Sword.

What I wonder happens when two liars meet like this - do they breed and have little liar-lets or something?
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« Reply #23999 on: November 18, 2017, 10:21:08 PM »
What I wonder happens when two liars meet like this - do they breed and have little liar-lets or something?

What I find frightening is the tribalism. They can see the unpleasantness, yet stick together because they are both ‘children of God’.