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[Nearly Sane]

”People who actually are atheists” That isn’t an “exclusive” statement Nearly Sane?
 By questioning whether those who have other definitions are “actually atheist” he is being exclusive.

Except that's a complete misrepresenation of what he said.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Except that's a complete misrepresenation of what he said.

Can you provide a list of atheist phrases?

A good starting point is the Internet encyclopaedia of philosophy which tells you which atheists came up or proposed which definitions and descriptions of atheism.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Except that's a complete misrepresenation of what he said.

Your contention, your burden.

[Nearly Sane]

Your contention, your burden.

So how many children is it that you have assaulted?

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

A good starting point is the Internet encyclopaedia of philosophy which tells you which atheists came up or proposed which definitions and descriptions of atheism.

As you just ignored it last time, once again the very first line of that article reads as follows:

“The term “atheist” describes a person who does not believe that God or a divine being exists”.

If ever you manage to find an atheist who goes beyond that into “gods don’t exist” by all means take it up with him/her, but on this mb you’re just tilting at windmills. It’s equivalent to me critiquing your belief that god has a big beard and sits on a fluffy cloud.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Vlad,

As you just ignored it last time, once again the very first line of that article reads as follows:

“The term “atheist” describes a person who does not believe that God or a divine being exists”.

If ever you manage to find an atheist who goes beyond that into “gods don’t exist” by all means take it up with him/her, but on this mb you’re just tilting at windmills. It’s equivalent to me critiquing your belief that god has a big beard and sits on a fluffy cloud.

Try reading the whole article.
I

[Stranger]

Try reading the whole article.

Try concentrating on what the people here are saying instead of picking a fight with some group that isn't here to defend itself.   

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Try reading the whole article.

Why?

Here's a picture of what you think your god looks like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_in_Christianity

Try reading the whole article.

[Maeght]

What word would you prefer to be used Walt for people who don't believe in God or gods? Suggest a word and I'll use that instead to keep you happy. Endless arguments about the definition of atheism is so boring and so pointless

[Walt Zingmatilder]

What word would you prefer to be used Walt for people who don't believe in God or gods? Suggest a word and I'll use that instead to keep you happy. Endless arguments about the definition of atheism is so boring and so pointless

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

[ProfessorDavey]

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

Which post would that be Vlad?

[Stranger]

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

Do stop the irrelevant quibbling about labels.

You know what people here think and believe. Deal with it.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Vlad,

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

Bullshit. Do you have a problem with how some Christians define themselves?

Why not?

[Maeght]

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

No, you disagree about the way people on here are using the word atheist so suggest another word we can all use to describe people who don't believe in God or gods and we can move on from the pointless and boring argument.

[Aruntraveller]

No, you disagree about the way people on here are using the word atheist so suggest another word we can all use to describe people who don't believe in God or gods and we can move on from the pointless and boring argument.

Godless heathens.

Oh sorry, that's two words.

I'll be back.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Maeght,

No, you disagree about the way people on here are using the word atheist so suggest another word we can all use to describe people who don't believe in God or gods and we can move on from the pointless and boring argument.

"Atheist" is fine for me. After all, the Internet Encyclopaedia of Philosophy he's in thrall to tells us “The term “atheist” describes a person who does not believe that God or a divine being exists”, and I have no quibble with that. 

[Aruntraveller]

Non-believer in shite.

Damn. four words now. Or three with a hyphenated thing going on.

[Maeght]

Maeght,

"Atheist" is fine for me. After all, the Internet Encyclopaedia of Philosophy he's in thrall to tells us “The term “atheist” describes a person who does not believe that God or a divine being exists”, and I have no quibble with that.

It's okay for me too but I'm making a desperate attempt to end the pointless and boring argument about the word. If people want to carry on with that, fine. I'll just give up.

[bluehillside Retd.]

Maeght,

It's okay for me too but I'm making a desperate attempt to end the pointless and boring argument about the word. If people want to carry on with that, fine. I'll just give up.

Which is fair enough. He’s doing the equivalent of me telling him that, as a Christian, he has a "problem" because of what the Klu Klux Klan believe. I have no idea what he gets from such idiocy but there it is nonetheless. 

[ProfessorDavey]

Call yourself what you like.
It's atheists that have a problem with how some atheists define
 atheism as exemplified by Professor Davey's Post.

Reminder to Vlad.

Which post of mine are you referring to.

[jeremyp]

Because it includes more people, as opposed to the No True Scotsman fallacy which is exclusionary. How does atheism being the lack of beluef in gods shut down debate?

It shuts down debate because Vlad doesn't have an argument that works against it. His debate is shut down.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It shuts down debate because Vlad doesn't have an argument that works against it. His debate is shut down.

How do you verify that someone actually lacks belief in God. With stones and Atoms it's probably more certain.

[Sebastian Toe]

How do you verify that someone actually lacks belief in God. With stones and Atoms it's probably more certain.

You could also ask how do you verify that someone actually has had a visit, meeting, with their god ?

[Stranger]

How do you verify that someone actually lacks belief in God.

This is a stupid question even by your standards. How do you verify that somebody believes in a God or gods? How do you verify that somebody lacks a belief in fairies or leprechauns?

[torridon]

How do you verify that someone actually lacks belief in God. With stones and Atoms it's probably more certain.

You could try asking them.  Not difficult