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BashfulAnthony

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2015, 09:44:20 PM »
Your obsession is all too obvious, and you being a non-religionist.
What you regard as "obsession" is what other people usually call "interest."

Being interested in a subject doesn't entail agreement with that subject, otherwise Professor Sir Ian Kershaw (to name but one of many) would be a very worrying individual.

I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2015, 10:18:33 PM »
I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
I don't realise it. It's only you regarding it as such - so what?
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BashfulAnthony

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2015, 10:34:12 PM »
I'm afraid your interest has developed into an obsession, and you don't appear to realise it.
I don't realise it. It's only you regarding it as such - so what?

Obsession"

a state in which someone thinks about someone or something constantly or frequently especially in a way that is not normal.   

 "Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2015, 10:40:40 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2015, 10:43:00 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2015, 10:48:09 PM »
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

It is to billions, it you haven't noticed

Millions used to think the Sun went around the Earth, so because millions or billions think something is true that alone makes it true?

Evidence of the supernatural myth and magical the something the present day believers haven't got.

ippy

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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2015, 10:50:11 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2015, 10:51:39 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.

I don't know BA and I've just classified you and a lot of others as fascinating and you're not even a little bit grateful.

ippy

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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2015, 10:53:14 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2015, 10:54:39 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're similar to Shaker:  you're obsessed.  I think that's what you need to address: perhaps you need some help.

I don't know BA and I've just classified you and a lot of others as fascinating and you're not even a little bit grateful.

ippy

I was only joking...really!!     8)
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2015, 11:00:55 PM »
Ippy, mate, if you don't want to discuss religion because it's of no importance you are on the wrong forum.

Like I have often said Rhi I find it fascinating the numbers of reasonably intelligent people that believe this nonsense, somebody has got to help.

ippy

You're all heart, Ippy.  :)

Warm night Rhi, been dancing in the woods?

ippy

Why? Do you fancy a go?

(Actually paganism = dancing-in- woods is a bit of a myth. Sorry)

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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2015, 11:07:07 PM »
"Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
If you don't get the rather simple point by now that being interested in something doesn't amount to believing in it (I don't mean believing that it exists; I mean believing in its content) then you're never going to grasp it.

It must mean that you entertain some extremely peculiar ideas about historians such as Ian Kershaw, but there you go ...
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2015, 11:11:10 PM »
"Not normal" applies to you in the sense that you do not even believe what you are obsessing about.
If you don't get the rather simple point by now that being interested in something doesn't amount to believing in it (I don't mean believing that it exists; I mean believing in its content) then you're never going to grasp it.

It must mean that you entertain some extremely peculiar ideas about historians such as Ian Kershaw, but there you go ...

If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2015, 11:17:47 PM »
If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
Never mind the rest of his publications; go into your nearest bookshop and find the two volumes of his biography of Hitler (Hubris and Nemesis respectively) and compare that alone (remember, we're just talking about this one work, not his entire publishing history, which is enormous) and get back to me. You'll find this:

http://goo.gl/FDCejt
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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2015, 11:48:15 PM »
If Kershaw was on a forum daily, on about the same particular topic, and had been for years, I would begin to wonder...
Never mind the rest of his publications; go into your nearest bookshop and find the two volumes of his biography of Hitler (Hubris and Nemesis respectively) and compare that alone (remember, we're just talking about this one work, not his entire publishing history, which is enormous) and get back to me. You'll find this:

http://goo.gl/FDCejt

And what is the above?  It doesn't come up. 

I don't know why you choose Kershaw to make a point.  Does he, then, spend time daily, researching, discussing, etc?on a public forum?
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BA.

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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2015, 12:04:25 AM »
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy


No information is unimportant.

It is required so that I might, with it presented in a tabled form, just possibly understand better some of the posts on this forum.

I can see that you think religion is important; it isn't.

ippy

You obviously cannot see anything; It is not MY views that are being requested here, I know, surprise, surprise, what my views on my religion are and what my views on other religions are.

I am interested in finding out the views of others.

So answer the questions in the light of your disbelief, please.

I don't disbelieve in religion, there is no good reason to belive there is such a thing as religion to have any form of disbeief in, in the first place.

ippy
If you believed that to be true then why are you here telling us this?
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2015, 05:48:25 AM »
My thanks to those who posted replies that are relevant to my OP.

I now have a clearer idea of what goes into your posts.
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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2015, 09:14:05 AM »
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.   

I only know about Christianity in detail.

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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2015, 10:58:19 AM »
Why do you want to know? It's not as though it's of any importance.

ippy
That's a dreadful indictment of somebody actively and publicly campaigning for it's elimination.


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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2015, 11:01:25 AM »
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Christianity.

Secondly

Philosophical materialism.

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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2015, 11:04:23 AM »
Ding ding ding! 500 points!

Unfortunately you appear not to know enough about PM as a "religion" to know that it isn't one.

Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2015, 11:36:50 AM »
Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know least about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you know most about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew more about?

Which religion, extant in the U K, do you wish you knew nothing about?

Which religion, extant in the U K , do you wish was not so, and why?

Questions open to theists, atheists and anti-theists.   

I only know about Christianity in detail.

I think not!
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2015, 11:38:44 AM »
Hm, we noticed ;)
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2015, 11:44:49 AM »
Hm, we noticed ;)

Well, even that would be superior to someone who pretends to know so much about most of them:  though how he finds time in between reading the world's books, studying philosophy, posting, etc, is a mystery!  Of course, his knowledge is mostly confined to a quick google, to appear knowledgeable.   ;)
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It is my commandment that you love one another."

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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2015, 11:46:20 AM »
Well, even that would be superior to someone who pretends to know so much about most of them:  though how he finds time in between reading the world's books, studying philosophy, posting, etc, is a mystery!
Only to you ...

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Of course, his knowledge is mostly confined to a quick google, to appear knowledgeable.   ;)
Prove it.
Pain, or damage, don't end the world. Or despair, or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man, and give some back. - Al Swearengen, Deadwood.