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Charleston church shootings
« on: June 18, 2015, 08:45:36 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33179019

What do people think about this?  KKK, other white supremacist, white Islamist, ...?
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 09:25:08 AM »
HORRIFIC! >:(
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 10:08:08 AM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 08:45:36 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33179019

What do people think about this?  KKK, other white supremacist, white Islamist, ...?


That it is deeply tragic and speculating without many facts isn't very useful.

Thoughts are with the community and families.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 10:09:02 AM »
Agree, NS.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 08:45:36 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33179019

What do people think about this?  KKK, other white supremacist, white Islamist, ...?

What difference does what people think make?
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 11:36:08 AM »
Whoever carried out this terrible crime is evil, whatever their ethnic identity.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 03:16:29 PM »
Well I think it is a lone individual who wants race wars. He's fanning the flames. Could be a skin head type or Manson or just a lone hater. No this is definitely NOT a Muslim thingy here.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 04:45:26 PM »
A 21 year-old man identified as Dylann Storm has been named as the chief suspect.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2015, 05:02:32 PM by Shaker »
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 04:46:20 PM »
They have him in custody.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 04:48:07 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
What difference does what people think make?
Some might have congratulated the gunman - after all, it has potentially helped reduce the number of Christians   ;)  What people think can have a considerable effect on their view of the event.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2015, 04:48:57 PM »
Quote from: Floo on June 18, 2015, 04:46:20 PM
They have him in custody.
That must have been within the last 45 minutes; according to the 4pm news, they were still looking for him.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 05:02:03 PM »
BBC News says he was arrested about half an hour ago.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2015, 05:25:59 PM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
What difference does what people think make?
Some might have congratulated the gunman - after all, it has potentially helped reduce the number of Christians   ;)  What people think can have a considerable effect on their view of the event.

Your OP was phrased to ask what people thought about who had done it not what people thought about the reduction in the number of Christians or the like, so my question was what difference would it make what people thought about who had done it since nobody could know. Or were you just trying to trap people into making assumptions?
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 05:29:39 PM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
What difference does what people think make?
Some might have congratulated the gunman - after all, it has potentially helped reduce the number of Christians   ;)  What people think can have a considerable effect on their view of the event.

How sick would that be? >:(
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 06:25:59 PM »
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
Your OP was phrased to ask what people thought about who (might) had done it ...
In view of the strong views on certain people groups on this board, I wanted to see what, if any, groups would crop up as being thought of as likely as having done this.  As I said before, our opinions can have a considerable effect on our attitudes to people or people groups.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2015, 07:51:14 PM »
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As I said before, our opinions can have a considerable effect on our attitudes to people or people groups.

That's going to come back and haunt you.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2015, 10:03:02 PM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 06:25:59 PM
In view of the strong views on certain people groups on this board, I wanted to see what, if any, groups would crop up as being thought of as likely as having done this.

You think some people on this board would condone this crime?

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As I said before, our opinions can have a considerable effect on our attitudes to people or people groups.
You think it is the fault of some of the people on this board or people like them?
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2015, 10:08:24 PM »

I thought Obama gave an eloquent speech;  referring again to the Gun Laws, and with no hope of anything being done about them in the States.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2015, 08:38:32 AM »
Quote from: Rose on June 18, 2015, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 06:25:59 PM
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
Your OP was phrased to ask what people thought about who (might) had done it ...
In view of the strong views on certain people groups on this board, I wanted to see what, if any, groups would crop up as being thought of as likely as having done this.  As I said before, our opinions can have a considerable effect on our attitudes to people or people groups.

I just assumed from what I read that it was a mentally ill young man  :-\
But maybe I read a later report.
Apparently he sat in the church for an hour before opening fire, he sounds disturbed to me.

 :(

There is nothing to suggest this evil piece of the proverbial is mentally ill, although of course all white supremacists have very sick personalities.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2015, 08:40:52 AM »
Quote from: Trentvoyager on June 18, 2015, 07:51:14 PM
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As I said before, our opinions can have a considerable effect on our attitudes to people or people groups.

That's going to come back and haunt you.
Sadly, it comes back and haunts all of us, Trent.  You're not exempt.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2015, 08:51:37 AM »
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2015, 08:58:21 AM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
What difference does what people think make?
Some might have congratulated the gunman - after all, it has potentially helped reduce the number of Christians   ;)  What people think can have a considerable effect on their view of the event.

Its disgrace that people use tragedies like this to score a cheap political point. To suggest anyone would have congratulated the gunman is a fucking outrage, mindful I'm close to being a super hypocrite I'll leave it there.

Sympathies to all involved.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2015, 09:05:03 AM »
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2015, 10:59:32 AM »
Quote from: Floo on June 19, 2015, 08:38:32 AM
There is nothing to suggest this evil piece of the proverbial is mentally ill, although of course all white supremacists have very sick personalities.

Makes me laugh (metaphorically) when people say after a mass murder that he must be mentally ill! You think?  ::)

If you open fire in church with the purpose of killing black people I think it's a given your disturbed but doesn't excuse you being held accountable for your actions.
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Re: Charleston church shootings
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2015, 02:48:46 PM »
Quote from: Hope on June 18, 2015, 04:48:07 PM
Quote from: Maeght on June 18, 2015, 10:59:10 AM
What difference does what people think make?
Some might have congratulated the gunman - after all, it has potentially helped reduce the number of Christians   ;)  What people think can have a considerable effect on their view of the event.

Having the thoughts like the ones you have expressed in this post of yours Hope, wont have gained you any of your heavenly brownie points, in fact If there is a Mr Magic out there I would think he, she or it will have taken a considerable number of brownie points away from you.

Shows up an extremely unpleasant side of you Hope, disappointing.

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